Meeting minutes for Consolidated Student Senate University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Arpil 29, 1992

CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS OFFICE OF THE SENATE PRESIDENT M I N U T E S SENATE MEETING 22-15 W E D N E S D A Y , APRIL 29, 1992 5:00 P.M. M S U 201 I. CALL TO ORDER SENATE PRESIDENT MIKE KENNEDY called the meeting to order at 5:11 p.m. I I . ROLL CALL P R E S E N T Senator Amend Senator Benneman Senator Devine Senator Dubowsky Senator Fischer Senator Fisher Senator Nalder Senator Ortega Senator Romero Senator Steck Senator Weber (late) Senator Young Senator Brown Senator Hal1 Senator Houston Senator Yohe (sworn in) Senator Bunin (sworn in) ABSENT Senator L a g o m a r s i n o I I I . APPROVAL OF SENATE MINUTES 22-14 M o t i o n to approve by Senator Romero. Corrections: 1 "saw" not "say" and p . 2 noted and made. a b s t e n t i o n . "at" not as by Senator R o m e r o . Corrections Motion by voice vote with one I V . ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no a n n o u n c e m e n t s. V . BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS RULES CHAIR SCOTT FISHER: Speeches were required during the e l e c t i o n . If you have your forms, give them to me. If you have not done the speech, w e l l , there is a problem: the Elections are over. If you have not done your speeches, come to me. There is a provision in the Constitution which states that an a l t e r n a t i v e service to a speech can be accepted upon approval by the Senate, but if you do not come, we will be forced to address the lack of a speech in different ways. Finally, I am yielding the floor to Vice Chair Mike Young to address the opinion which has been made about the Nalder case. RULES VICE CHAIR MIKE YOUNG: I will be making copies of the O p i n i o n , but essentially there were two areas we addressed: UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 89154/(702) 739-3477 SENATE M I N U T E S 22-15 2 V . BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS 1) Did Jami Nalder break the rules or violate the C o n s t i t u t i o n as stated in the complaint as "Failure to uphold the CSUN Constitution, its bylaws and statutes"? The Rules C o m m i t t e e determined that it is not up to to interpret the Constitution but rather that is the responsibility of the Judicial Council, and that the Rules Committee is only investigatory in nature. Basically, we did not find any violation of the rules or moral violations. We have discussed it., a n d we want the Rules Committee to be a part of the creation of the CSUN Conduct Code as we will be involved with it, and we would like to use this case as an example for the Code to u s e . Also, there was a concurring opinion in the case by Senator F i s c h e r , to whom I yield the floor. RULES MEMBER HOBREIGH FISCHER: Beyond the legal case, we had no rule to use, no way to prove guilt. Also, there were no w i t n e s s e s from either side, and with a one sided presentation, there was no way to clear her (Jami Nalder's) name one way or a n o t h e r . BYIAWS CHAIR WILLIE ROMERO: We had a meeting two weeks ago and finished Senate Bills 22-03, 22-06, and 22-07. We will be having another Bylaws meeting in about two weeks. I also need more Senators to join the Board. POINT OF INFORMATION BY SENATE PRESIDENT MIKE KENNEDY: Bill 22-07 is the creation of a CSUN Conduct Code. SHAC CHAIR ROB JENSEN: No report. A P P R O P R I A T I O N S DIRECTOR BRYAN COX: We had a meeting last night. NSA DIRECTOR PAUL STUHFF: The main issue at UNLV is the potential i n d i c t m e n t of the UNLV A d m i n i s t r a t i o n , and I have spoken with several attorneys around town, and there is little chance of it h a p p e n i n g. OSI DIRECTOR JOEL KOSTMAN: Next week is the last week for the OSI page. We've had a lot of response for it, and have had to turn people away. Laura Yacullo has done a fantastic job with the Boy Scouts lecture program. And, finally, CSUN - 20, the Yell - 14. O R G A N I Z A T I O N S BOARD DIRECTOR NICK WHITST0NE: The End of the Year Organizations Board Party has been incorporated into the LUAU with co-sponsorship if the Hawaiian Club and E&P. It will be on May 3rd, and tickets for members of recognized o r g a n i z a t i o n s will be $2.00. We will be working off rosters to confirm membership when the tickets are purchased. E&P DIRECTOR WARREN WHITE: If any of you missed Ren & Stimpy, you missed out on a great event. The WHOLE courtyard was full. The Luau is coming up. C O - D I R E C T O R MAXIE MAULTSBY: We have sold 878 tickets for the Pauly Shore concert and a total of $4648 has been m a d e . Everyone has tickets except for a few in CSUN. E L E C T I O N S BOARD DIRECTOR MIKE BUNIN: There were no elections this week. I am officially resigning from Elections as of today, ojss I hope to be appointed to the Senate. I feel very fortunate as I had two smooth elections and a w o n d e r f u l Vice Chair(Howard). SENATE MINUTES 22-15 3 V . BOARD AND DIRECTOR REPORTS STUDENT SERVICES DIRECTOR HEIDI SMITH: We received a thank you note for help with Disability Awareness Day, but as no one here h e l p e d , I am hoping that next year Student Government will get more involved. I, well maybe not-*- c o n s i d e r i n g my term is almost o v e r , need more Board members. The Book Exchange is running s m o o t h l y , but we are having some trouble with the Student D i r e c t o r y , but we have several options we are working on. V I . SENATE COMMITTEE NOMINATIONS There were no Senate Committee Nominations. V I I . EXECUTIVE BOARD NOMINATIONS There were no Executive Board Nominations. V I I I . UNFINISHED BUSINESS A . Nomination/Approval of Vacant Senate Seats 1. Business & Economics (2 seats) a . James Yohe b. Chris Cannon c . Mike Bunin d. Daryl Anderson N o m i n a t i o n s were closed at Senate Meeting 22-14 SENATE PRESIDENT MIKE KENNEDY stated that Chris Cannon and Daryl A n d e r s o n have withdrawn from the nominations. Motion to have each candidate speak and have unlimited question and answer period, after which, if there are no objections, each candidate shall retain the seat by Unanimous Acclamation by Senator B e n n e m a n . Motion carried by voice vote. JAMES YOHE SPOKE. MIKE BUNIN SPOKE AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS BY SENATORS HOUSTON AND HALL. There were no objections. NSA Director Paul Stuhff (a Notary P u b l i c ) swore in James Yohe and Mike Bunin. 2. Science & Mathematics Senator Fischer nominated CHRISTOPHER WARD, MATT SCHWARTZ, AND CLAYTON DAVIS for the Science and Mathematics Seat. 3 . Education Senator Fischer nominated RACHEL KIECHER for the Education Seat. 4 . Engineering Senator Benneman nominated DAVE SEGAL AND J. PAUL SELLERS for the Engineering Seat. Senator Nalder nominated TIMOTHY MITCHELL for the Engineering Seat . THERE WAS NO FURTHER ACTION. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 4 X I . NEW BUSINESS A . Approval of Senate Committee Nominations OUT OF ORDER. B . Approval of Executive Board Nominations OUT OF ORDER. C . Introduction of Senate Bill 22-08 M o t i o n to refer to Bylaws by Senator Fisher. Motion carried by voice vote. D . Introduction of Senate Bill 22-09 Motion to refer to Bylaws by Senator Fisher. Motion carried by voice vote. E . Approval of Senate Bill 22-03 Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Fisher: I am in favor of this as he wants to see the contracts in a timely fashion, but also want the ability to waive the Bylaw if there is an emergency item. I urge you to vote in favor. Senator Benneman: This bill began as very regulatory, as it began as a statute, which we could not have waived, but we watered it down in Bylaws to create a deregulated Bylaw in order to be able to waive it if there is an emergency. Senator Yohe: I agree, Pauly Shore falls under this situation. We have to be really careful about approving money and contracts. If the Senate had approved the contract as read last week, the fact that we would have had to purchase millions of dollars worth of insurance besides our million dollar policy would have been d i s a s t r o u s . This Bill covers situations such as this one. Motion carried by voice vote. F . Approval of Senate Bill 22-06 Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Fisher: This Bill is a good bill the way it is written, but it is reactionary. We all know how long it takes to get GPA ' s checked, the paperwork will end up two to three weeks behind schedule as the Business Manger's computer is still not on line } and therefore the Business Manager will not be able to comply with the Bylaw. I think before this is approved, the computer needs to be placed on line. Senator Fischer: I think that we should pass this for the summer and get the computer on line while we don't have the massive amount of work. Senator Benneman: This is the Bill I wrote last year, and yes, it was reactionary last year also. I wrote it to protect students from actions of certain political candidates last year. As it stands, there are special cases which come up that cannot be handled under this Bill at this time. The point is that the new Executives will handle the computer situation and the Bill will be able to cover things like trips, etc. Senator Romero: I say we pass it and FORCE the E-Board to get on the ball with the computer. Senator Bunin: May we please have a recess so that we, the new S e n a t o r s , can read it thoroughly. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 5 X I . OPEN D I S C U S S I O N , CONTINUED F . Approval of Senate Bill 22-06, continued. SENATE PRESIDENT KENNEDY recessed the meeting at 5:42 p.m. SENATE PRESIDENT KENNEDY called the meeting back to order at 5:49 p.m. There was more discussion. CAII FOR THE QUESTION by Senator B u n i n , approved 1 3 - 2 - 2 . Motion carried by voice vote with two opposed . G . Approval of Senate Bill 22-07 Motion to ^ a p p r o v e by Senator Romero. There was discussion. Senator Fischer: How will the Code be written? Senator Benneman: It will be written by the Vice President and approved by the Senate. There is a Conduct Code by Liz Baldizan in Student Services, but we want our own to ensure our autonomy. Motion carried by voice vote with two opposed. H . Approval of Senate Resolution 22-06 Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was much discussion . Senator Devine: The students have no influence in the a d m i n i s t r a t i o n of the MSU. The MSU is controlled completely by Theresa Chiang and Dr. Ackerman, and the MSU Board is not a n s w e r a b l e to students at all. Vice President Kevin Briggs: The Resolution didn't address the point that students are not elected to the MSU Board. Senator Fischer: Through the Chair to Senator Devine, how many times have you met with Dr. Ackerman and the MSU? Senator Devine: We have met about four times. Senator Fischer (through the Chair to Senator Devine): What about negotiations? Senator Devine: Dr. Ackerman will not allow students control over anything in the M S U . That point is not n e g o t i a b l e. Senator Fischer: Well, as far as that goes, I know that dealing with KUNV' s independence, it has taken at least four weeks at over an hour of meeting time each time a meeting has taken place and there is still need for negotiations. It takes time to n e g o t i a t e . I feel that the Resolution is premature. Senator Bunin: I agree with the concept, but we cannot take what we want. There is a much better way to go about this. If we pass the Resolution, what power will receive? Will the MSU and Dr. Ackerman fall under our legislation or will it be for nothing? Senator Devine: A Resolution is not legislation, and we cannot say that MSU and Dr. Ackerman has to follow it. If we pass the Resolution, it just states how the student feels and also gives us more clout when we move later. Senator Bunin: Over the years we (Student Government) have had plenty of arguments with the MSU and Dr. Ackerman, and I can tell you that all channels of communication are not exhausted. To make a Resolution while channels are still open does NOT look p r o f e s s i o n a l , sweating it out and waiting will. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 6 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED H . Approval of Senate Resolution 22-06, continued Senator Devine: In one of our meetings, Dr. Ackerman positively stated that the one item on which he will not budge is turning over the MSU to students. At that point, I did not feel that further negotiation was possible. There are no channels in whic o n e g o t i a t e . Senator Bunin: I am against the Resolution. There have been many times that Dr. Ackerman has said "no 1 b e f o r e , but that does not mean it is a dead issue. We are jumping the gun at this point and by doing so we are slapping the MSU in the face. There has to be a c o m p r o m i s e . The Resolution might make things w o r s e , and as it is, the Resolution is premature. Senator Weber: I just want the Senate to know for the record that Senator Devine and I have parted ways concerning the MSU. The reason that Dr. Ackerman is not willing to work with Brian Devine is that Brian stepped on his toes really badly by sending D r . Ackerman HIS proposal an hour before the meeting at which it was to be presented, as well as *'cc-ing J ' it to the Board of R e g e n t s , Dr. M a x s o n , and the Faculty Senate as well as to CSUN. Senator Devine DID NOT consult me or the Executive Board before sending the proposal. Dr. Ackerman is not cooperative dealing with Brian Devine) but he and Theresa Chiang want more student i n v o l v e m e n t . Senator Devine is, in effect, trying to take both D r . Ackerman's and Theresa Chiang's jobs away with the Resolution and as his proposal is worded, would cause way too much red tape for a student controlled MSU. I personally am in the middle of negotiations with them, but it takes time. We cannot do it overnight. We can still talk more, but not by going over their heads. Dr. Ackerman and Dr. Chiang are more than willing to cooperate. Why slap them in the face? The Resolution is a waste of time. I am against it. We are not beyond cooperating with the MSU. Senator Fischer: I just wanted to know if the people working on the MSU project are u n i f i e d , but Senator Weber just answered my question. Senator Nalder: I just wanted to clarify Dr. A c k e r m a n ' s reasons. He usually has good reasons for doing things. Senator Devine: Obviously, this building would not easily be managed by students, nor is that what I want. But students should have some (not all) a u t h o r i t y . We want to SHARE authority with the MSU. Dr. Ackerman was very sarcastic to me and stated that if we want control of the MSU, we can buy it for $17 m i l l i o n . Senator Nalder: I agree with Senator Weber. Maybe we should try to work with them, not just charge ahead. We should go s l o w l y . Senator Houston: Through the Chair to Senator Devine, if the R e s o l u t i o n passes will you have a plan ready? Senator Devine: This Resolution, if it passes at all, will obviously not be unanimous. I was hoping for a unified view from the Senate. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 7 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED H . Approval of Senate Resolution 22-06, c o n t i n u e d. Senator Devine: I personally do not see the tension between D r . Ackerman and myself. I also don't see how the Resolution is a slap in the face. From what I have heard, from the Senate Retreat up to the present time, the big complaint about the MSU is the fact that students do not have any type of input or control over the MSU. If we get a unified Resolution saying that students should have control, it would work. Senator Houston: All I want is to negotiate more. Senator Fisher: I concur with most of the a r g u m e n t s . I am in favor of returning some control to students, and I am not against changing back to old ways of student control, but it seems that you (Senator Devine) are not the person to do it at this time. The new Executive Board is full of energy at this time, and can work towards the goal. As Bryan Cox states when asked about the surveys, there is not enough information gathered to KNOW what all the students want, as of yet. Therefore, maybe there is not . enough information gathered to pass the Resolution. Here is my horrible analogy for the day: I used to train dogs for dog shows, and when I wanted a dog to lean forward for the j u d g e s , I used to pull on its tail. This made them pull the opposite way, and lean. I feel that if we pass this Resolution, we will be putting force on the MSU and causing them to lean the opposite way that we are pulling. We don't want that. Senator Hall: I am for the R e s o l u t i o n . It is for the students, and just expressed the attitudes of the students on record, that we as students want a piece of the action, and want to be a part of the decision making process of MSU. Vice President Briggs: I agree with Senator Hall. Dr. Ackerman and the MSU can be very non-supportive of students, and the idea of "controlling the MSU is a m i s c o n c e p t i o n . The Resolution just states that we want some of the student body to have some of the input concerning our STUDENT union and have the authority to review the operating policies. Senator Amend: Call for the Question, which carried 12-4-1. Motion failed by voice vote 3 - 1 4 - 0 . I . Approval of a $3000 encumberance from the 904 account to cover the costs of the CSUN Book Exchange. M o t i o n to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Romero: What is the money for? Student Services Director Smith: We hired eight (8) students to fill all the hours of the Book Exchange. Senator Nalder: How many books do you expect to have? Director Smith: I haven't a clue, this is the first time we have done this, and I hope that there is a lot, but we are playing it by ear. Senator Nalder: If there are no books, then what? Director Smith: We have had a lot of ads about the Book Exchange, and we hope to have many books, but if there are none, we will cut hours and cut back on employee shifts. Please, just spread the word about the Exchange. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 8 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED I . Approval of a $3000 encumbrance from the 904 account to cover the costs of the CSUN Book Exchange. Senator Dubowsky: What is the training costs? Director Smith: We estimated about 8 hours of training, that iSj one hour of training for each employee. We decided to pay them because usually when one is trained for a job they get paid . Motion carried by voice vote with one opposed. J . Approval of $2210 from the 903 account to reimburse security expenses for the 1992 CSUN Carnival. Motion to approve by Senator Bunin. There was discussion. Senator Fischer: I thought that the entire amount was paid when we approved it at the Senate Meeting. Senate President Kennedy: The money is to pay for security from the Carnival, and we already have the money, the Carnival reimbursed us for it. K . Approval of $1759 from the 900 account to send two people to the national American College Health Assoc. C o n f e r e n c e . Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Benneman: Who are the two people going? SHAC Chair Jensen: It is myself and Debbie Speigel, the Vice Chair . Senator Benneman: What is the cost breakdown, and are you both enrolled students. Senator Yohe: How are the students selected? POINT OF INFORMATION by Senate President Kennedy: SHAC is the Student Health Advisory Committee, and t r a d i t i o n a l l y , the Chair and the Vice Chair (if there is a Vice Chair) are selected. Senator Houston: Where is the conference? Senate President Kennedy: San F r a n c i s c o , California. Chair Jensen: SHAC Chairs have been going to this convention five years running. They have large seminars for SHAC people to teach us all kinds of stuff. I have never been personally. Senator Fisher: What are you hoping to learn? What is the reason for going? Chair Jensen: I am going on the advice on Lori Winchell and Ray Rodriguez who go every year. Senator Fisher: Do you have a cost breakdown? Chair Jensen: It was given to the Executive Board. Vice President Briggs: SHAC offered several different proposals for cost breakdowns. We chose the most responsible one, and it covers registration, hotel, air, the per diem, and a special fee for a special seminar. Senator Dubowsky: Why didn't the Senate receive the breakdown? Senate President Kennedy: It was merely an oversight. Senator Bunin: We have never wasted money on a convention in my time as a Senator, and the Vice President just gave the b r e a k d o w n . We should trust him. Senator Yohe: I am against this rushing and approving without a cost breakdown in front of us, why not just one student? SENATE MINUTES 22-15 _ 9 f' X I . Senator Nalder: I am not concTrned about the cost, I P r e s i d e n t Briggs. The reason they are sending two people is that there are numerous seminars at these type of conventions and one person cannot get all the information offered. I would like to know the subjects of the seminars. Chair Jensen: I have never been there, so Lori (Winchell) signed me up for the seminars. Senator Nalder: I am for the item. Senator Bunin has vouched for the Conference, and I see no reason to vote against it. Senator Romero: Call for the Question. Call for the question passed 1 6 - 0 - 1 . Motion carried with one opposed and one abstention. L . Approval of $1759 transfer from the 908 account to the 900 account. M o t i o n to approve by Senator Romero. There was discussion. Senator Ortega: What is the money for? Senate President Kennedy: The money for the convention is coming out of the 908 (0SI) a c c o u n t , this is merely a transfer of funds. M o t i o n carried by voice vote with one opposed. M . Approval of $3250 out of the 903 for expenses incurred for a Hawaiian Luau on May 3, 1992. Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Benneman: Is this the combined amount for the Organiza-tions Board End of the Year Party? Director White: It is for Hawaiian Club, Organizations, and E&P . Motion carried by voice vote with one abstention. N . Approval of $900 out of the 903 account to purchase n e w s p a p e r ads to bail out the Rebel Yell . M o t i o n to approve by Senator Weber. There was discussion. Senator Benneman: What ads are we buying to "bail out" the Yell? POINT OF INFORMATION: The "bail out" was a parting thing from m e , it was only a joke. Director White: It is for a two page advertisement listing all that E&P have done this year, and thanking the students for their participation and support. And even one page from the Yell is expensive. Senator Nalder: I yield the floor to Ched Whitney, Editor of the Yell. Ched Whitney: Is the bail out comment just a joke? I was all prepared to give a p r e s e n t a t i o n . I did just want to day, buy ads for your need, not ours. Senate President Kennedy: I am just teasing you, Ched, okay? Senator Fisher: I am against this. This is a lot of money to s p e n d , and it may be construed, as by a certain graduate student w r i t e r , to be spending $900 to tell everyone how good we are. I am against spending $900 to do what you said. I want a yes or no answer only: Is the $900 to do an ad about what you in E&P have already done? SENATE MINUTES 22-15 10 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED. N . Approval of $900 out of the 903 account to purchase newspaper ads to bail out the Rebel Yell , c o n t i n u e d . Director White: I, uh, need to answer that in more detail. Senator Fisher: I am still against it. Senator Bunin: To answer for Warren, it is a yes. But it is good PR (public relations). But $900 is too much, we should get a discount . POINT OF INFORMATION by Senator Fisher: That is the discount. Senator Yohe: All of these things are past events? Director White: They have already occurred. Senator Yohe: Then why advertise what has happened in the past? Director White: No one knows what we've done. This is a PR move to thank the students who came for their support and to let those students who didn't come know what they missed. Senator Nalder: E&P spent a lot of money on fliers and ads, but this advertisement is pro-active for next year, and we should do it . Vice President Briggs: UNLV lacks tradition, and by doing this, we are setting tradition. There were a lot of events this year that will be repeated as tradition. Senator Hall: E&P is one of the best things about CSUN, we should do it to show precedent. Senator Yohe: I am personally opposed to this due to the fact that we shouldn't have to a d v e r t i s e , the students should realize what we do for them. It just doesn't seem satisfying. Senator Dubowsky: Call for the Question. Call for the question carried 1 5 - 2 - 0 . Motion carried by voice vote with four opposed. 0 . Approval of stipends and fee waivers for the following positions (§ stipend for May, June, and July): POSITION STIPEND FEE WAIVER A p p r o p r i a t i o n s Director $200 24 credits E&P $300 24 credits 0SI Director $250 24 c r e d i t s O r g a n i z a t i o n s Director $250 24 c r e d i t s Student Services Dir. $300 24 credits NSA Director $200 24 credits E l e c t i o n s Director $125 (September) $250 (October) $125 (February) $250 (March) $250 (April) Motion to approve by Senator Benneman. There was discussion. Senator Yohe: I am opposed to any stipends and fee waivers for the p o s i t i o n , if they v o l u n t e e r , they should not get paid. Senator Bunin: These positions are a big s a c r i f i c e . It is more work than you think (to Senator Yohe) and with the hours that are to be put in, the Directors cannot work for a living too. This helps them pay for classes and rent. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 11 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED. Senator Nalder: Call for the Question, which carried 1 4 - 1 - 2. Motion carried by voice vote with one opposed and one a b s t e n t i o n . P . Approval of stipends and fee waivers for the Motion following positions effective May 1, POSITION STIPEND Senate President $450 Vice President Pro Tem $150 Vice President $450 P r e s i d e n t $500 to approve by Senator Weber. There w a i v e r s 1992 : FEE 42 24 42 42 was WAVIER c r e d i t s c r e d i t s c r e d i t s c r e d i t s d i s c u s s i o n . Senator Amend: Why are there 42 credits for the Executive Board? Senator Fisher: I can answer that. The Board of Regents gives each Executive Board member a 42 credit g r a n t - i n - a i d . Therefore, this is only for the employement record, and not our concern. Senate President Kennedy: This is just pertinent for the e m p l o y m e n t documents. Senator Romero: Point of Information or Inquiry, do the Executive Board members get § stipend for the summer? Senate President Kennedy: No, they get full stipends. Senator Fischer: I spoke with Joel (Kostman) about it, and CSUN does not collect the full percentage from student fees, and we may want to pursue the full 5%. Senator Yohe: This stipend thing has me upset. The question was closed very fast and there appears to be a consensus in the room that they deserve fee w a i v e r s , but the general student population does not feel that way. Senator Brown: If you ask any of the student body what our function is, they draw a blank. If they came to the meetings and read the handbook, they would know what we do, they would not be so ignorant and could comment on the stipends. Senator Weber: Call for the Question, which passed 14 - 2 1 . Motion carried by voice vote with one opposed and three a b s t e n t i o n s . Motion to make an emergency motion by Senator D u b o w s k y . Motion carried by voice vote with one abstention. Senator Dubowsky yielded the floor to Senator Ortega. Senator Ortega motion to approve Organizations funding of $2250 out of the 902 account for the following Organizations: $500 for Phi Alpha Delta $500 for the Collegiate Honors Council $500 for the Association of Computing Machinery $500 for Amnesty International $250 for the Society of Physics Students There was discussion. Senator Hall: What is Phi Alpha Delta? Senate President Kennedy: It is a pre-law fraternity. M o t i o n carried by voice vote with three a b s t e n t i o n s. SENATE MINUTES 22-15 12 X I . NEW B U S I N E S S , CONTINUED Q . Nominations/Election of the Senate President Pro Temp ore . Senator Benneman nominated WILLIE ROMERO Senator Ortega nominated SCOTT FISHER Senator Young nominated MIKE BUNIN Senator Bunin declined the nomination. M o t i o n to close nominations by Senator Young. Motion carried by voice vote. M o t i o n to have each candidate speak and answer questions for an unlimited amount of time, followed by a roll call vote with the top vote recipient attaining the Pro Tempore seat by Senator Y o u n g . Motion carried by voice vote. WILLIE ROMERO spoke and answered questions. SCOTT FISHER spoke. Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Senator Amend: Benneman: Devine : Dubowsky: F i s c h e r : Fisher: Nalder : Ortega: Romero: Steck: Weber: Young: Brown: Hall: H o u s t o n : Bunin: Yohe: Willie Romero Willie Romero Scott Fisher Scott Fisher Willie Romero abstain P a s s / S c o t t Fisher Scott Fisher abstain Willie Romero Willie Romero Scott Fisher Willie Romero Willie Romero Willie Romero Willie Romero Willie Romero Scott Fisher received five (5) votes. Willie Romero received ten (10) votes, and retained the Senate President Pro Tempore p o s i t i o n . X I I . OPEN DISCUSSION SENATOR HALL: How many more meetings are there? POINT OF INFORMATION by Senator Benneman: There will be one more this semester. SENATOR HALL: I will save my farewells, then. Congratulations to Willie Romero. I wished you had passed the Resolution that would put our foot down. { g p o o W S E N A T O R Congratulations Willie (Romero). ~ "SENATOR ORTEGA: Congratulations Willie (Romero), Senator Yohe, w e l c o m e back Mike (Bunin). This is a fantastic job, stick a r o u n d . SENATE MINUTES 22-15 V 13 c XII . OPEN D I S C U S S I O N , CONTINUED SENATOR FISHER: To the outgoing Executive Board, it's been fun. See ya. Congratulations to Willie Romero, I hope that everyone who voted for him did their speeches (ha, ha). SENATOR YOUNG: No comments. SENATOR FISCHER: Congratuations to Willie Romero, James Yohe, and Mike Bunin. It's been fun having Mike Kennedy around, and he was pretty good once he learned parliamentary procedure. Remember the full 5% fees that we are entitled to. SENATOR HOUSTON: Congratulations to the new Senators, and to Willie Romero. SENATOR BUNIN: It's been awhile since I've spoken in Open D i s c u s s i o n . I congratulate Willie Romero and to James Yohe. It's nice to have a Senator who will speak his mind, I have to respect someone who is not afraid to do so. As for voting no on the stipends, if you spend a lot of hard work and long hours on a project or a j o b , it is easy to get frustrated when you are going to school and trying to pay for everything also. The stipends are deserved, and the Executive Board IS a full time job. If you have any way to ask 19,000 students what each one feels about CSUN, let me know, I have no idea how to ask them all. SENATOR STECK: Welcome back Mike Bunin, welcome James Yohe, and c o n g r a t u l a t i o n s to the "TG" Willie Romero. SENATOR NALDER: I'm sorry I haven't been to the meetings, but I finally got a job. Congratuations to Mike (Bunin) and James ( Y o h e ) . I'm glad that Mike got back on the Senate, he and I don't always see eye to eye, but he has his points. As far as the stipends go, I felt exactly the same way that you (to Senator Yohe) feel, but the longer I've been in the Senate, I've seen the need to have stipends. I'd hate to lose a member of the Executive Board because they can't afford to do it. It is a full time job, as are D i r e c t o r s . They don't have desks for their health, they WORK, and have office hours. C o n g r a t u l a t i o n s to Willie Romero. Sorry to Scott Fisher, you w o u l d ' v e made a good Pro Tempore. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE