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Meeting minutes for Consolidated Student Senate University of Nevada, Las Vegas, September 19, 1994

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University of Nevada, Las Vegas Student Government Office of the Senate President MINUTES SENATE MEETING 24-31 MOYER STUDENT UNION 202 MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1994 6:00P.M. I . CALL TO ORDER SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO called the meeting to order at 6:13p.m. I I . ROLL CALL PRESENT ABSENT Phoebe Block Rehan Anwar (unexcused) Shawna Campbell Toby Cole Gina Dinoto Eric Fergen (late) Jamie Fox Jodi McMillin Terry Morrow John Pida Helene Pobst Chris Ray Scott Schwartz Patrick Smith Walt Vodrazka Mike Volkert Julie Wong I I I . APPROVAL OF MINUTES (24-27, 24-28, 24-30) Motion to approve the minutes made by SENATOR SCHWARTZ, seconded by SENATOR MORROW. Corrections to the minutes as follows: Meeting 24-30 SENATOR BLOCK did not abstain from the vote on Item III. Approval of the Minutes, voted in favor. Move into a vote. Motion passes 14-0-1. SENATOR POBST abstained. SENATOR FERGEN arrived late. IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS HEALTH ADVOCATE KRIS HEARD announced that she was passing around a group of information sheets (attached to minutes) of what the Health Center has accomplished since the start of the $20.00 Student Health Fee. She is happy to answer any question any students might have, and anyone is welcome to come over to the Health Center and take a tour of the new facilities. SENATOR BLOCK asked why students have to pay $20.00 in the summer? 4505 SOUTH MARYLAND PARKWAY • LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 89154 • (702) 739-3477 • FAX (702) 597-4606 Senate Minutes 24-31 page 2 HEALTH ADVOCATE HEARD stated that it was because students are admitted under special circumstances. SENATOR BLOCK asked why if a student is enrolled in spring classes they are not covered in the summer? HEALTH ADVOCATE HEARD stated that it was because a student has to be enrolled in the current session to be seen, and they are liable for anyone that they see. STUDENT BODY VICE PRESIDENT LAGOMARSINO announced that he has put notes in all the boxes about touring the Preschool and has only received one RSVP, he does not wish to go down there with only two representatives from CSUN. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO announced that SENATOR KENNEDY has resigned his position so there is now an opening in the College of Liberal Arts; he has an appointment and will be passing the gavel to SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA at 7:45p.m. V. BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS A. SENATE COMMITTEE REPORTS a. Rules & Ethics, CHAIR SCHWARTZ - none b. Campus Safety & Awareness, CHAIR ANWAR - absent c. Bylaws, CHAIR POBST - needs one more member. d. Ad hoc Constitutional Revision, CHAIR CAMPBELL none e. Ways & Means, CHAIR FOX - scheduled meeting for Monday, September 26th at 5:30 in MSU 202. f. Student Health Liaison, SENATOR VOLKERT - had the tour of the Health Center with only himself and SENATOR BLOCK, tours are still available. g. OPEN SENATE SEATS NOMINATIONS/ELECTIONS 1. College of Science & Mathematics 2. College of Business & Economics 3. College of Health Sciences (nominations closed) Sandra Shelling Andrea Nicholson 4. College of Liberal Arts SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO stated that Sandra Shelling has withdrawn her application, and he has been unable to get in touch with Andrea Nicholson. Motion made by SENATOR POBST to re-open nominations for the College of Health Sciences, seconded by SENATOR BLOCK. Move into a vote. Motion passes 16-0-0. B. DIRECTORS REPORTS Senate Minutes 24-31 page 3 a. Elections, DIRECTOR MANGUAL - filing went well, when the items for election come up choose wisely. b. Nevada Student Affairs, DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON introduced the new members of her committee, they are: Bomi Kim, Elaine Hernadez, Scott Keever, Karl Ross; setting up a voter registration drive for the week of Homecoming. c. Office of Student Information, DIRECTOR WALLACE has been working on the next Information page for the Rebel Yelly the book markers will be in this week; the name tags will be done soon; thanks to everyone who helped out at the tailgate, it went well. d. Organizations Board, DIRECTOR PHILLIPS - her first meeting went well, her Board approved an amended version of the Policy and there are people at the meeting who oppose it so she hopes they will speak with there representative so that the discussion will not be dragged out. e. Student Services, DIRECTOR GREENHALGH report given by SENATOR SMITH stated that the new pencil sharpeners are in and ready to be installed. C. BUSINESS MANAGEMENT REPORTS a. Consolidated Student Business Manager - no report D. FACULTY SENATE SEAT REPORTS a. Admissions - SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated that the Committee met on the 16th and granted credit to people for transfer classes. b. Status of Women - SENATOR MCMILLIN stated that she received an agenda for an upcoming meeting of her committee. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO called a recess at 6:41p.m. for ten minutes. Point of Personal Privilege called by SENATOR FOX during recess. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO called the meeting back to order at 6:55p.m. VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS A. Approval of in-house service provider/contract (enumerating the scope of services to be provided; payment schedule/detail of costs; and relevant special conditions) for CSUN legal aid council to be provided for the sole benefit of CSUN students by Peter J. Bellon, Esq. at an hourly rate of $62.50 at two (2) days each week during regular academic sessions (September through May) and one (1) day each week during summer academic sessions (June through August) with total amended expenditure of $9,750.00 to be encumbered out if the fy 94-95 Senate Minutes 24-31 page 4 CSUN 2702 (Gen) account (tabled at the 08/29/94); Motion to take the item off the table made by SENATOR BLOCK, seconded by SENATOR MORROW. Move into a vote. Motion passes 15-0-0. SENATOR SCHWARTZ yielded the floor to Business Manager Callison who stated that it has been mandated that she do his contract on an Employment Document but Mr. Bellon would like it done on an ISP, so he wants one thing and the University wants another. SENATOR POBST asked why he is being paid for September and August? STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that he has been working during that time frame because the students were promised legal assistance. SENATOR POBST asked how many student^he has assisted? Mr. Bellon stated that typically he sees two to three students each day he is on campus; he has been working for the University for a year and a half under the spirit of the idea he would be receiving a contract; for tax purposes he feels it is ludicrous to be an employee of the University, but he will be taking it up with the University if the contract is approved by the Senate, until then however he does not have a leg to stand on. SENATOR POBST asked Mr. Bellon if he is against the contract? Mr. Bellon stated that he agrees with the contract, but he doesn't want to be an employee of the University. SENATOR POBST stated that there is normally not retro active pay; addressed the Senate to state that she does not believe he should be seeking retro active pay. SENATOR VODRAZKA stated that there is a problem with the contract the word July in the statement of the summer months needs to be stricken from the statement. Motion made by SENATOR SCHWARTZ to strike July from that portion of the contract, seconded by SENATOR BLOCK. Move into a vote. Motion passes 15-0-0. Move into a vote on the motion on the amended contract. Motion passes 14-0-1. SENATOR POBST abstained. B. Approval of Aaron Rosenthal as the Student Government Nevada Student Affairs Assistant Director (tabled at the 06/20/94 Senate Minutes 24-31 page 5 meeting); Motion made by SENATOR COLE to take the item off the table, seconded by SENATOR VOLKERT. Move into a vote. Motion passes 11-0-4. SENATORS CAMPBELL, SCHWARTZ, FERGEN, and MORROW abstained. SENATOR VOLKERT yields the floor to DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON who stated the she has worked out a compromise, she needs help to do what she wants to do but that is what her committee is for, she is willing to work with Mr. Rosenthal but she will leave the decision up to the Senate. SENATOR COLE asked if they are able to work together? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that they are, Mr. Rosenthal has been into the office to see if they are able to work together and it has been fine. SENATOR DINOTO asked if DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON could do her job efficiently without an Assistant Director? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that she felt she could. STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that the Executive Board believed that because it was an election year it would be important to have representatives up in Carson City to get the University more funding. SENATOR VOLKERT stated that she had just said she needed help and asked her why she need help but not an Assistant? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that she has a Committee to help her with the things she needs to get done. SENATOR SCHWARTZ asked if she had information in her operating policy that stated the job if an Assistant Director or anything from a past policy to draw from? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that there is nothing form the past policies, but in the past it was the Executive Board that approved the Assistant. SENATOR CAMPBELL asked if it wouldn't be more feasible to send a member of the board and be saving the money that would be required to pay an assistant because the board members would know what was going on just as well as the assistant if something came up? STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that in order to be effective up in Carson City to get funding and to get our library off number five on the list we need adequate representation, there are issues that need to be worked on right now. Senate Minutes 24-31 page 6 SENATOR RAY asked if he was working with DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON currently? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that he has been into the office and they have been talking. SENATOR BLOCK stated that they had assistant directors in the past and none of them had received pay. VICE PRESIDENT LAGOMARSINO stated that when they were choosing the positions it was decided that an assistant would be necessary, and they cannot require the board to be at a meeting when they are not getting paid for it. SENATOR SMITH stated that as a point of information the Senator are not paid either and they are required to be at meetings. SENATOR COLE we need to decide on whether to approve or not approve him and then worry about whether or not to pay him. Move into a vote. Motion passes 8-5-2. SENATORS MCMILLIN, BLOCK, SCHWARTZ, DINOTO,and CAMPBELL opposed. SENATORS POBST and WONG abstained. C. Approval of a $150.00 per month stipend and a 12 credit fee waiver for the Student Government Nevada Student Affairs Assistant Director out of the 2702 (Gen) account starting October 1, 1994 to April 30, 1995 (tabled at the 06/20/94 meeting); Motion to take item C. off the table made by SENATOR VOLKERT, seconded by SENATOR VODRAZKA. Move into a vote. Motion passes 13-1-1. SENATOR POBST opposed. SENATOR SMITH abstained. SENATOR POBST stated that as much as she believes that he would do a good job, she also believes that he can do the job without being paid. STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that as before she stated that it is a legislative year and people need to be there to represent the University, if we want to get things done and get the money we need we have to have representatives up there. SENATOR SMITH asked if there would be a problem with DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON being at the meetings? STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON is a medical student and could have a lab on the days she would need to beat one of the meetings. SENATOR SMITH stated that this should have been taken into account when she was chosen for the position. Senate M i n u t e s 24-31 page 7 STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO told SENATOR SMITH not to question her integrity, that it had been taken into account. SENATOR SMITH stated that part of the job of the Executive Board is to lobby and they are passing this responsibility off by assigning this position. SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated as a point of information if you look at the Regents Budget we are getting considerably more money than Reno this year, also the last NSA Assistant Director did a lot of work and did not get paid for it. SENATOR POBST wondered why DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON was not considered to go up to the meetings also? STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that the numbers on the budget stated that we are receiving more money than Reno but in the break down of the FTE they are bringing in more money because they have more full time students than we do, and she will be at the meetings but she feels that it is important to have an assistant and pay him. SENATOR VOLKERT what the past directors have done is not completely relevant and if he is being asked to give up his time he should be compensated. SENATOR SMITH stated that he has gone to two of the meetings and not been compensated. SENATOR DINOTO addressed DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON to ask her if her board members would be able to go to the meetings? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that she has not addressed the issue because she was not sure what kind of team would be going. SENATOR BLOCK asked if when Director Johannsson applied she was aware that she would need to go to Carson City to lobby? DIRECTOR JOHANNSSON stated that when she knows that she needs to go somewhere it will not be a problem because most of her work is independent study and she would just need to inform her instructors that she wouldn't be there. SENATOR COLE asked if the money he is receiving goes towards lobbying expenses. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO stated that it is a monthly payment like all the other Directors position, he gets the money regardless of what he does. STUDENT BODY VICE PRESIDENT LAGOMARSINO stated that if he receives the stipend he would be required to put the hours in and time stamp in and out just like all the other positions. Senate Minutes 24-31 page 8 SENATOR POBST yields the floor to Aaron Rosenthal and asked if it would be a problem for him if he got the position to be at the meetings and work with Director Johannsson? Mr. Rosenthal stated that it would not be. Move into a vote. Motion passes 8-6-1. SENATORS COLE, SMITH, POBST, SCHWARTZ, BLOCK, and DINOTO opposed. SENATOR WONG abstained. Motion to move out of the order of the day to item E. of New Business by SENATOR SMITH, seconded by SENATOR SCHWARTZ. Move into a vote. Motion passes 15-0-0. E. Approval to reduce Student Body President Boixo's monthly stipend to $601.00 per month (tabled at the 09/12/94 meeting); Motion to take item E. off the table by SENATOR SMITH, seconded by SENATOR SCHWARTZ. Move into a vote. Motion passes 15-0-0. STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that she would read through the last meetings discussion of this item and comment on it: She has had four and a half months to get acquainted with her duties and not one major item has been sent to the Senate in a manner which would allow the Senate to ethically vote on it, documentation has not existed and time limits have been broken the proper procedures have not been followed the tailgate was saved by the Senate with a bylaw being waived and they said "no more" and yet she asked a Senator to circumvent the system again for the upcoming tailgate. What I have to say about the tailgates is that I am the Student Body President and the Presidents duties according to the Constitution Section V. are The President shall be the chief administrator of the government and legal head of the organization and shall therefore be responsible for the administration and executive of all Executive actions of CSUN, now I am not your Entertainment and Programming Director I did not vote for Joe Bush alias James Puglin who was voted to be our Entertainment & Programming Director who now happens to be in jail because he was wanted by the ATF and the FBI. I took on this position to try to do something for the students, to try to maintain some of my campaign promises and I realize I messed up with the bylaws and I realize I didn't get the contracts in on time and that I have a secretary who didn't show me how to do things but you are not paying me to be the Entertainment and Programming Director that's not something that I am paid for but I took that time from my schedule and I am sorry if I messed up but its not something that I'm getting paid for and its not part of my duties and my Presidential duties come first. Second, she consistently Senate Minutes 24-31 page 9 abuses her authority case in point Senate President Pro Tempore Pida, he disagreed with her, now I hate to bring this out in public, but I feel it is necessary. Being called a F'en B word at a tailgate party I do not consider a disagreement it's disrespectful and far from a professional courtesy. I felt I could not work well with someone who behaves that way and that is why I took him off my Presidential Committees I attempted to remove him from the Regents Committee which is the Presidential Search Committee only after I spoke to the Chairman of the Regents who told me to do what I felt was necessary, he told me to do what I felt was right. I reached a compromise because there was a concern about consistency, so I will work with Senator Pida and consider the incident as water under the bridge. She attempted to block funding for the CSUN Preschool, that is because I felt the CSUN Preschool did not need to receive funding after they had already received $30,000.00 and I found a problem with that because a very small portion of the students enrolled use the Preschool and I felt $30,000.00 was sufficient to the students enrolled. Next, her personal vendettas cloud her judgment, now I find this whole thing a personal vendetta because it was known by everyone that I didn't like Scott Schwartz when he was a Senator and I have expressed my feelings towards him. I believe that none of this reflects his constituents, I feel that this is something that is coming from him and I would like him to bring these constituents to me as long as they are not his fraternity brothers or someone he has brainwashed against me, let me talk to them and see and then ! we can see if there are any personal vendettas. Moving on, her entire process was run in a manner inconsistent with the legal channels through which she must go, this has to do with the elections service, I did not feel Allen Chastane fit the job but we also decided against Mr. Ratray would not do either, so we decided to run the elections ourselves, that way I cannot be threatened to be sued. Here it says that Vice President Ackerman as well as staff in Purchasing have commented on the illegality of her actions, but I have spoken to people in Purchasing and Dr. Ackerman and they said I was doing the right thing, Dr. Ackerman told us to run the elections by ourselves. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO stated for the record that he was passing the gavel and SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA would be taking control of the meeting at 6:50p.m. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA stated that if there were any outbursts he would immediately adjourn the meeting, the first eruption he would call it quits because he would not tolerate it. SENATE PRESIDENT ROMERO stated that the Senate should take their time in deciding because it is a very serious matter they are dealing with. Student Body President Boixo continues: She has abused the $500.00, this is an everyday fund for us Senate Minutes 24-31 page 10 to do business. It says that Business Manager Callison was asked for a list of these expenditures on Friday, August 20th no one has come to me about this, that is what kills me is that he (Scott Schwartz) has never come to me to talk about this. Business Manager Callison is a professional and it would be hard to believe that she would any such thing, this is not a conspiracy. Moving on, Student Senators are her employers as well as the Executive Board, I have spoken to students outside the Senate because they are also who I serve and the ones I spoke with seem to think I am doing a good job. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to do whats best for the University. As for the tickets, I accept gratuities, you (addressing this to Scott Schwartz) were a Senator when President Kostman was receiving tickets why didn't you say anything then? or is this a personal vendetta? SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated that the tickets were distributed as to a CSUN bylaw two tickets to each Senator, he changed it from a gift to him to a gift to CSUN. Student Body President Boixo continues: Athletic tickets are not part of CSUN benefits and as I remember you would go to President Kostman's office and receive your tickets, but this is what I remember, I could be wrong. Moving on, I would just like to say that I have left my office open. Now I would just like to break down what I have done as your Student Body President - We have received $30,000.00 from the Presidential Fund that will go towards the yearbook; I am in the process of getting a large sum of money that will go towards the summer school program the Student Body as well as the Graduate Program are working with Dr. Guinn on this; understand that we have only been in school for four weeks too; I am working on getting more security at night and better lighting, there are people out in droves during the day giving out tickets so they can be out there all night too, I want to require at least one person in every parking lot at night; we have a new grass tailgate area which I see as a change for the better; we were not going to be allowed to have free beers but I convinced Dr. Ackerman to allow us two free beers each person, but I will also make sure that if that is what they are limiting us to all the other tailgates should have the same rules, why should they single out the students; I have initiated a yearbook because the last one we had was in 1987, so we will have a year book this year; I have an open door policy with all the administrators on this campus; I am forming a forum so that the students can meet the regents and the candidates for regents; and rather than pulling this out when I was not here to defend myself, for those of you who doubt my skills perhaps you create some sort of evaluation board because it is very easy to blame someone but what you need to do is evaluate according to paperwork. Students are my number one priority, I'm not mean unless I'm being attacked like this. SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated that the tickets for football were always Senate Minutes 24-31 page 11 distributed and therefore not considered a gratuity. It nice that you have these things planned but lets get them done. At the last Presidential Meeting there was no student representation because Senator Pida was not there and President Boixo was not there, and he was not aware of who held the other seat. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA Point of Information stated that it was Vice President Lagomarsino. SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated that President Boixo should have been at the meeting he knows she had a class but she knew what time the Senate meetings were long before registering for classes, and what is this about a group of students from Utah Community College who had an appointment with President Boixo that she missed, what the deal with that? VICE PRESIDENT LAGOMARSINO stated that the students from Utah were an hour and a half late to there appointment and President Boixo had been there at 9:00a.m. for their appointment. SENATOR SCHWARTZ asked for those who didn't believe that she is doing her job what about the rumor that she had taken a job at Angel Hills Country Club? STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that she took a pay cut from her previous earnings when she took the job as President, so she has taken a job for 5 hours on Sundays to make up for that loss. SENATOR VODRAZKA stated that he spoke to President Kostman and he said that he did what he pleased with the tickets he received to games and if he gave them to the Senators fine but that was not a requirement, so he was not following the Executive Board policy either. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA Point of Information President Kostman had his own written policy. SENATOR VODRAZKA stated that the $500.00 emergency money is not written in the constitution as emergency money, it is any money they deem necessary under $500.00, the only thing the Senate is not receiving is the paperwork that should be submitted by the next meeting when that money is spent. As Senators we do not need to see bids for elections until it passes the Executive Board. The Band was brought in with the bylaw being waived, the tailgate had already been approved, we could have gotten along without the band we just thought it would improve it. In his opinion what wasn't done was what she was trying to do for the E & P position till it could be filled. I see no reason to lower her stipend as of now. SENATOR MCMILLIN yielded the floor to BUSINESS MANAGER CALLISON who stated that the Senate does receive financial reports and she has been backed up on work, but never has she denied the Senate Minutes 24-31 page 12 Senate any financial information. SENATOR SMITH stated that the tickets say CSUN and maybe she should have then changed to Stephanie Boixo. It seems to him that she doesn't take responsibilities for both sides, this is a check and balance system and we are telling you we are not happy, the stipend can always be raised again. SENATOR CAMPBELL stated that working within the bylaws is the Presidents duties and having to waive them all the time does not show good leadership. We are evaluating the President on a higher plateau of knowledge because many of the constituents are not aware of the Constitution and the rules the President has to follow. SENATOR VOLKERT stated that the E & P thing should not be held against her because it wasn't her job to begin with. SENATOR BLOCK the bylaws have not always been waived for E & P there was also the trip to the Regents Meeting during the summer. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA Point of Information the time in which her Campus Address was to be given was not followed, and that should be known by the President being that she was a Senator. VICE PRESIDENT LAGOMARSINO asked if the as Chair Senator Pida was allowed to make such comments? SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA stated that he has to advise the Senate of all the rules and bylaws in the Constitution. SENATOR POBST stated that when Student Body President Boixo was first given her stipend she stated that if she wasn't doing her job the Senate should lower it. President Boixo had plenty of time to put in paperwork for the Regents Meeting. STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO apologized for not knowing everything but she hasn't been in office for two years and she didn't know that the Regents Meeting was coming up so fast. SENATOR VOLKERT stated that perhaps they should try to use the methods that were discussed at the meeting. SENATOR SMITH Point of Information stated that anything discussed at the meeting would be considered collusion and is grounds for impeachment. Move into a vote. Motion passes 10-4-0. SENATORS WONG, MCMILLIN, VOLKERT, and VODRAZKA opposed. Motion to move back into the order of the day made by SENATOR SMITH, seconded by SENATOR POBST. Senate Minutes 24-31 page 13 Move into a vote. Motion passes 14-0-0. D. Approval of addition to the CSUN Organizations' Board Policy Section VI. Recognition of Organizations, Item H (see attached) (tabled at 09/12-94 meeting to allow for amending by Organization Board); SENATOR SMITH stated that he was approached by his constituents and although he likes the idea they are strongly opposed. SENATOR SMITH yielded the floor to Dale Upchurch from Beta Alpha Psi who stated that he was upset by the Item because his organization and other academic organizations of its kind would be hurt by this amendment, he gave his reasons why he believed it should not pass. SENATOR CAMPBELL stated that she understood his position on academia but the resolution was designed to add a social aspect to those kind of groups. Mr. Upchurch stated that the people in his group that choose to go to social activities do so through other organizations. SENATOR SCHWARTZ stated that he has talked to all of his constituents and they are all against this item so he definitely has to oppose it. SENATOR POBST agrees with Mr. Upchurch because her organizations feel the same way. SENATOR VODRAZKA stated that this would not work, you cannot ask an academic organization to do social activities just like you can't ask social groups to do academic activities. If there was a way to discriminate between the groups it might work, but none of the groups that fall under Engineering want this, so he cannot vote for it. SENATOR RAY stated he spoke to people in the Hotel School and they felt it would make it harder on them because they are to busy focusing on their own fields. SENATOR RAY yielded the floor to DIRECTOR PHILLIPS who stated that they already know her position on this and that she will just state a few things again. That this is not a strictly social item, it also includes any of the events that the colleges put on. It is already pretty apparent how everyone is going to vote anyway so it would probably be best to not waste time rehashing everything and just vote. SENATOR DINOTO addressing the fact that Mr. Upchurch's organization puts stringent requirements on their members they are not a recognized organization, correct? Senate Minutes 24-31 page 14 DIRECTOR PHILLIPS stated that she had received their paper work in the day before the meeting, she found out during a conversation with him that they require their members to have a certain GPA and be in a certain college, she has spoken with Senate President Romero because in her operating policy it is not specific, so on the next agenda they will be deciding what the guidelines are. SENATOR MCMILLIN believes that the guidelines are not specific and in order to make a change like this it will take time and everything needs to be put in writing, her constituents are all against it too so she has to vote against it also. Motion made by SENATOR RAY Calling Question, seconded by SENATOR SMITH. Move into a vote. Motion passes 7-4-3. SENATORS CAMPBELL, DINOTO, MCMILLIN, and POBST opposed. SENATORS WONG, SCHWARTZ, and RAY abstained. STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT BOIXO stated that she can ask for a re-count but she would like it to be a roll call vote but she cannot require it. SENATOR SMITH asked that the Senate deal with the business currently being discussed. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA stated that the Senate would deal with it later. He knows in his mind that it was passed but if the Senate feels it should be re-counted they can bring it up. SENATOR VODRAZKA asked if it wasn't necessary to have a two thirds majority to Call for Question. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA stated that it was not necessary. Move into a vote on item D. Motion fails 2-11-1. SENATORS POBST, SMITH, VOLKERT, FERGEN, MCMILLIN, RAY, BLOCK, DINOTO, WONG, SCHWARTZ, and VODRAZKA opposed. SENATOR CAMPBELL abstained. Point of Personal Privilege by SENATOR COLE. V I I . NEW BUSINESS Motion made to move out of the order of the day to item F. of New Business by SENATOR SMITH, seconded by SENATOR CAMPBELL. Move into a vote. Motion passes 12-0-1. SENATOR SMITH abstained. F. Approval of Laura Reeves as the Student Government Entertainment & Programming Director; Senate Minutes 24-31 page 15 Motion to approve made by SENATOR MORROW, seconded by SENATOR SCHWARTZ. SENATOR BLOCK stated that this candidate would require the Senate to waive bylaw 35. SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE PIDA stated that he has the grade verification and she has not been enrolled in school at the University since the Spring of 1993. SENATOR MORROW yielded the floor to Laura Reeves who stated that her reasons for not being enrolled in school are because she had a personal emergency (consult tape for more details) and had to go home. She stated that she has been in the office this past week and has been working on getting the Homecoming details in or