Daniel A. Moore interview, March 3, 1979: transcript

UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 1 An Interview with Daniel A. Moore An Oral History Conducted by Norwood Germany Jr. Ralph Roske Oral History Project on Early Las Vegas Special Collections and Archives Oral History Research Center University Libraries University of Nevada, Las Vegas UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 2 © Ralph Roske Oral History Project on Early Las Vegas University of Nevada, Las Vegas, 2020 UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 3 The Oral History Research Center (OHRC) was formally established by the Board of Regents of the University of Nevada System in September 2003 as an entity of the UNLV University Libraries’ Special Collections Division. The OHRC conducts oral interviews with individuals who are selected for their ability to provide first-hand observations on a variety of historical topics in Las Vegas and Southern Nevada. The OHRC is also home to legacy oral history interviews conducted prior to its establishment including many conducted by UNLV History Professor Ralph Roske and his students. This legacy interview transcript received minimal editing, such as the elimination of fragments, false starts, and repetitions in order to enhance the reader's understanding of the material. All measures have been taken to preserve the style and language of the narrator. The interviewee/narrator was not involved in the editing process. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 4 Abstract On March 3, 1979, Norwood Germany Jr. interviewed Daniel A. Moore (b. 1939 in Fort Worth, Texas) about his life in Las Vegas, Nevada. Moore begins by speaking about his move to Las Vegas from Utah at a young age, his education and his work in construction and at the Las Vegas McCarran Airport. Moreover, Moore speaks about his involvement with church and his recreational hobbies such as bowling. Moore also spends time speaking about the African American population in Las Vegas, the jobs available to them, racial tensions in his young adulthood versus his children’s experiences, and the segregation of black communities into the Las Vegas Westside. Lastly, he talks about the city’s growth, tourism and the economy, the development of different shopping centers and malls, and the city’s law enforcement. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 5 Okay. My name is Norwood Germany Jr. and I'm in the home of Mr. Daniel Anthony Moore. Mr. Moore has agreed to do my oral interview project. Mr. Moore, the nice man who has informed me that he doesn't want his address, nor his telephone number mentioned in any script or tape. And I told Mr. Moore that that would be just fine. Although the material is not to incriminate anyone or do anyone any harm but all the same, Mr. Moore, you know, agreed to do the project under those terms and I said, “okay.” Mr. Moore has a nice family. His family's been just nice to me since I've arrived here and they’re all just doing their normal duties and we're just sitting here. Mr. Moore, there's—you don’t have any more questions? I briefed you on everything and you agreed to answer the questions to the best of your ability. So, if you have anything that you want to say right now, if you don’t we’re about ready to begin. No. I'm ready if you are. Okay, Mr. Moore. Mr. Moore, how old are you? Forty years old. Forty years old? Yes. Forty years old. Okay, Mr. Moore. Mr. Moore, where were you born? I was born in Fort Worth, Texas. Okay, that question is where were you born in Southern Nevada? But you wasn’t, you was born in Fort Worth. Right. Okay. When did you come to Southern Nevada, Mr. Moore? Came to Southern Nevada about ’52. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 6 Nineteen fifty-two? Nineteen fifty-two, that’s about right. Okay, why did you or your family come here? Well, we came here because my father was working in Southern Nevada. But before we came, we was in Utah where my father would commute back and forth. Mm-hmm. You know, he worked in Southern Nevada and Utah doing construction work. And he found that the opportunities and everything were much more better in Nevada so we got up here about, I’d say about five months after we was in Utah. Mm. I see. I was about thirteen. Okay. All right, Mr. Moore. Where were you educated in Southern Nevada? Are you okay? Yes. Where were you educated in Southern Nevada? I was educated at J.D. Smith Junior High. Okay. Which was a elementary also, it was junior high and elementary (unintelligible). Oh it was a junior— (Unintelligible) Yes, elementary and junior high together. Oh, so— (Laughs) It ain’t nothin’ like it is now. You know these schools, now you have elementary school here, you have your junior high here and your high school here. Here it was all combined, you know, except high school (unintelligible) Rancho. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 7 Okay. You attended Rancho High School? Yes, I did. Okay. Mr. Moore, did you participate in any type of sports or anything while at Rancho? Well, not really, not really. Tried my hands a little baseball (unintelligible). (Laughs) But sports just never was your thing? Not at all, son. Not at all. Look at you. (Laughs) Big Boy, big boy. Hear you play a little football. That’s good. It’s good. I'm sorry (unintelligible). Okay. Thank you, Mr. Moore. Okay, Mr. Moore. What is your current occupation, Mr. Moore? My current occupation is—I’m working at over at the airport, doing some maintenance work around the airport and everything. Maintenance supervisor. Mm-hmm. You know, I’ve been doing it for the last past eight year (unintelligible). Maintenance work, buildings, everything. Mm-hmm. Some construction work. You know, when I was coming up here they had a lot of construction jobs going on and stuff, and I was doing a lot of that. They always set me up with some of that stuff. So, that’s what I'm doing now, I'm at the airport. Okay. You’re currently at the airport and you've done a lot of new odd jobs, you know, like, maintenance and construction and things of that nature? (Unintelligible) Yes. Okay. Mr. Moore, at what addresses have you lived in Southern Nevada? Well, lived on the Westside, always on the Westside. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 8 Oh, since you've been here, (unintelligible) resided on the Westside? Westside (unintelligible) Okay. I don’t want to get into the addresses cause I remember what you told me. Yes. Okay. Alright, Mr. Moore. Were you married in Las Vegas or Southern Nevada? No, I wasn't married here. I got married in Louisiana. Mm-hmm. Got married about ’63. I went out there to go to school at Baton Rouge University. Stayed there about eight months, didn't like it. Met a young lady there (unintelligible) so yes, we came home back here. Okay. Okay, Mr. Moore, at this time I’m gonna ask you, is or was church activity an important part of your life? In other words, did you attend church? Are you actively involved? Let me tell you, son. I'm very active in God's word. Mm-hmm. See, we all children of God, we talked about this earlier. I believe my family here, very religious. We’re Christians. Right. You know, I know you are too son. You told me about your family (unintelligible). But I'm very outgoing. I got church out here, we go to here, First Baptist. You know, a very good preacher. Congregation about sixty-two people. It’s small but we growin and everything. You know, I believe, you know, gotta help oneself. And, you know, about the church and everything. So we have a lot of activities, church activities going on. We give a lot of dinners, cooking dinners and UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 9 everything, you know, for a lot of people. And we have childcare centers open around the church and everything, for parents who cannot watch the kids while they work. Mm-hmm. Just doing God's will. I think that's really nice, Mr. Moore. And I really appreciate that I got a chance to talk to you earlier and we had some nice things to say. Okay. Mr. Moore, were or are you active in politics? You know, (unintelligible) active in any—? No. No, no politics or anything. Because I'm gonna tell you one thing, because there's so many people here trying to run this country and everything, I stay on my side of town. I’m doing what I gotta do for my family. Mm-hmm. My kinfolks and my church people. Okay. That’s all. I don’t get off to no politics, because I don’t believe none of these Democrat, Republicans. Mm-hmm. Whatever they say, I don't get (unintelligible) President Carter or anybody since I don’t get (unintelligible). You just— I say pray the Lord to take care of all of us. So, because of your religious background you just let politics go and say God— (Unintelligible) Lord Take care (unintelligible) can take care himself. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 10 Okay. I understand that, Mr. Moore. That’s all fine. Okay. Mr. Moore, where—were or are you a member of a social club or other special interest group? (Laughs) Yes, (unintelligible) bowl. That’s one of my great hobbies there, son. I bowl. Oh, so you’re in a bowling group, huh? Yes, bowling club. Club, yes. (Unintelligible) You know, that’s the main, only main thing I do. The wife, you know, she plays—likes to play bingo. But nothing really serious (unintelligible) cause I don’t like that gambling whatsoever. Yes. But bingo, you know, is just a lot of women play bingo. (Unintelligible) so, you know, if I saw Doris bowl. Okay. My little girl, she's off doing little things, you know, cheerleading (unintelligible). Oh yes? That seems to be—. For a while, between her and her sister (unintelligible). (Laughs) Okay. A little self-involvement from your family, get you involved. They sure do that all day. Keep you busy. (Laughs) Sure do that. Okay, Mr. Moore. Is or was gambling an important recreational activity for you or your family? (Laughs). (Laughs) No, I just—. Not at all, I told you I believe (unintelligible) you know, gambling is a sin. This is a sin, sinful place. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 11 Mm-hmm. You know, but kids growing up here can make a family, you know, you can make an environment for these kids if you handle it right. They love it here, I wouldn't want to move due to the fact they’re growin up here and got friends. My wife got friends. My church. This is our home. Mm-hmm. Well, Mr. Moore, have you ever thought about gambling? You know, make extra money or anything? Has it ever come up? Let me tell you, we're all sinners, all sinners. I have thought about it. I have been down deep in debt and I needed to come up with some quick money. I'm gonna tell you one thing, I (unintelligible). Like I say, my church people helps me and they help me out fine. So, no—so I answer that no to certain extent because I don’t believe in it. You don’t believe in gambling. Do any members of your family? I know you have two older sons that no longer live with you. Did they ever gamble or take to gambling? Did it ever, you know, present a family problem or anything with anyone gambling? Just, did your family ever have a history of gambling or whatever? No, not at all. See, both of my sons—you know, one's back east, another’s up here in San Francisco. Mm-hmm. (Unintelligible) When they come into town everything, they go out running around. I don’t know what they be doing. I'm pretty sure, you know, (unintelligible) probably have gambled. Okay. But nothing big, right? No, not at all. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 12 Okay, Mr. Moore. All right. Mr. Moore, what other kinds of recreational activities, you know, do your family seek other than what bowling you've mentioned earlier? Like TV or TV listening, viewing? Sightseeing or anything like horseback riding, anything? Do you participate in any of those type of activities? Well, not really. My kids they got to learn horseback riding. Mm-hmm. You know, but besides that, well I watch a lot of TV. (Laughs) you watch a lot of TV. I can see you watching TV right now. (Laughs) (Laughs) Yes, always got the TV going on because you learn things, you learn things. Mm-hmm. But that’s about all we do, you know. I really don't know anything more with the kids have probably got into besides school functions. Okay. Mr. Moore, here’s a question. Do you remember anything about the early above ground atomic test? Can you think about that? I'm not familiar with it, but I just wanted to know if you—? No. I’m not. (Unintelligible) Okay. All right, Mr. Moore. What changes have you noticed, if you've noticed any, since you've been in Southern Nevada? You know, since you first arrived, what changes have you noticed? Well, (laughs) (unintelligible) that the place is growing like wildfire. (Unintelligible) casinos down here and everything. Built a lot of department stores and stuff. Okay. Casinos down where? Like what, what area are you talking about? Talkin’ about up south part of the Las Vegas Strip. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 13 A lot of new casinos, yes? A lot of new casinos. They had built, you know, MGM, Caesars (unintelligible) Mm-hmm. Okay. Any other changes, you know, that you've noticed since you've been here? Any other changes I have noticed? You know, a lot of changes. They used to have a lot of nickel and dime stores and everything Mm-hmm. But now they have a lot of department stores, everything. You know, like these malls, Boulevard, took my kid down there yesterday to this new one the Meadows. Meadows Mall. Yes. So (unintelligible) it's pretty in there. So, in other words, it's like spacey? A lot of open space and everything and now—? There's a lot of, a lot of freelance. Excuse me. There’s a lot of land, there’s a lot of land going on around here and everything. But they built a whole lot of all different things out here. Put more parks in this place. But main thing about it like we—. Can I take a break here? Oh, okay. You know, I don't want to get—excuse me, excuse me. Okay. Mr. Moore, had your little break. How you feel? (Laughs) Is everything okay? Ready to start up again? Okay. Mr. Moore was last talking about the economic changes. As far as, you know, jobs opening, pay salaries and stuff like that. Just, how was that like say back in the early days? UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 14 (Unintelligible) Between ’63, ’65 there was a lot of, you know, we was having—black folks had a lot of radical movements and everything. Stuff was going on like that. But let me tell you, Las Vegas was really booming. A lot of folks who has comin’ into town, gambling and stuff. They opened up a lot of economic (unintelligible) opened up a lot of jobs, you know, for blacks who have low to no—low education and everything. They could work in dish rooms and everything, you know, maintenance work and all everything, you know. And so that really helped out a lot of blacks on the Westside of Las Vegas. Because a friend of mine down the street, James Smith, James Earl, James Earl Smith. He was—works in (unintelligible) fifty-two years old. He been in Las Vegas ever since I know when. He's still doing the same thing, working as maintenance in one of the casinos it make better money than (unintelligible) a lot of jobs out here for us and everything. Mm-hmm. Like I said, you know, a lot of gambling, people come into town, a lot of tourists. It’s a lot of jobs economically, it’s great. So how was the pay, you know? Pay—pay was very above average. Yes. It was, it was good. It was really good. But they make money, most of ‘em make a lot of tips. Tips tend to make more. Mm-hmm. People come to town, tippin’ tippin’ big, you know. (Unintelligible) make a lot of tips. Okay. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 15 My oldest boy was working in the casinos before he left to go to school, the one back east. He was working as one of them—parking them cars, valet parking. Mm-hmm. Valet park is what he was doing. Come home with fifty, sixty dollars in his back pocket. It’s nice. So like, Mr. Moore, casinos really were one of the main things as far as blacks getting jobs? I'm gonna say that was a very—that was number one thing. That was number one, because that's all Vegas really has to offer, is the tourist—tourist trap. (Laughs) The tourist trap, huh? Yes. (Laughs) That’s what I call it, tourist trap. Because this place never closes. I know you know, you talk about (unintelligible). Mm-hmm. It never closes. Casinos stay open all day all night all morning. Okay. You know, people come knocking here so that's the main breadwinner for a lot of blacks on the Westside out here, maybe to tell you the truth for people in Vegas. Okay. Mr. Moore, I just want to ask you, you keep saying the Westside. Do the blacks mostly reside in the Westside now? Or did they earlier? Earlier, that's where all blacks lived. Was on the west side of Las Vegas. Due to all the prejudice and everything, things that was happening. One thing we couldn't afford live in no place (unintelligible) was, nothing but the Westside. Because I've gone out further this side was nothing but (unintelligible) and everything. Most everybody lives on the north side of town. Mm-hmm. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 16 See, but so start—they started building more homes out towards the Strip on the southern side. White folks moved out from the north side moving over to the south side; as the blacks, we stayed in the west side of Vegas. And then up through somewhere up in Henderson, Boulder—Boulder City (unintelligible). Oh. So they started like, spreading out just a little bit? Right. (Unintelligible) Okay. In the 70s? Right. The majority of us all lived in the west side of town. Okay. Speaking on, you know, what I think was going on. That’s, you know, that’s the way it looks. Okay, Mr. Moore. I don’t know too much on— Well, I've talked to a few people— Statistical accuracy. Right, right. Okay. Mr. Moore, I want to talk a little bit about your school, your educational background. While you attended J.D. Smith, could you tell me just like, briefly discuss—how was it—? Let me tell you— Like as far as racial discrimination and anything like that? Well, we did have a lot of that but it really didn't involve us too much as being at a young age. Okay? Because— Would you say it was (unintelligible) mostly the older—? UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 17 Yes, noticed it. Noticing. The older I got, I was about, about twenty-two, twenty-three years old. ‘Cause, you know, I was working on doing odd jobs, everything. You know (unintelligible) my wife and everything. Discrimination was definitely, you know, definitely high out here, for one thing because I tell you black and whites out here never really got along. You know, anywhere because there’s a lot of—see, I'm gonna tell you now when, it’s like Italians out here. Mm-hmm. See, Italians own these casinos and everything. So, you know, it's the mafia. So, it's a lot of mafia people out here and we have a lot of Mormons out here too. I'm a tell you—we all God's people and everything, but I’m a tell you that’s what ran the town. These—and so in other words you had to stay in our place. Mm-hmm. You know, because like back south—you see that’s where my father, you know, his mother is from. So I think south, the south and everybody else's prejudice and everything was straight forward. Mm-hmm. You know, they tell you. Right. Out here it's more of, you know, secret way things are done. You do this, you know, and everything you can tell it's discrimination by what they have you doin’ everything. Right. So, like I say is that, there’s really a lot of underneath—I call underneath prejudice. Mm-hmm. Underneath prejudice. You know, ‘cause it's, it's like— UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 18 Hidden well. Yes. See, it's watered down. In other words (unintelligible) you got me doing this and everything and you figure, you know, I'm gonna keep on going because I want to (unintelligible) we want you to do this. Just keep on doing what you're doing here. I've been doing it for last five years. And I ain’t got no promotion, no nothing, no higher. So, like I say, it's all underneath the table. Okay. I hope I'm making sense to you. Yes. You're making—you’re making sense, Mr. Moore. ‘Cause, you know, like I say, these questions you asking me— Yes. I can go on and talk all day on certain subjects. (Unintelligible) what I know about the prejudice that came across me and my family by being out here on the west side of town. Okay. You know, like I said, I went to J.D. Smith Junior High School, Right. And it's a lot of white, you know, people. Mm-hmm. Mostly white people. And, you know (unintelligible) But there were some blacks in there? Yes, there was a few blacks. So like, how was it though? Like, was there many outbursts or anything? No, no. Not at all. Not really. Not really. I’m a tell you, didn't get too rowdy, you know, until high school and everything, you know, around there. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 19 Mm-hmm. I said I was doing all the Black Power movement and everything. Yes. You know, we got a lot of that down here in Vegas. Mm-hmm. (Unintelligible) Oh. Was it like—? Yes, I can understand it. I've looked at a few statistical papers and whatnot, seen some numbers on outbursts and that's not a wise thing to do down here now. We didn’t have a lot of, we didn’t have a lot of killing. The stuff (unintelligible) I don’t know if you know anything about the killing and everything. People getting dumped off in the deserts. (Laughs) Yes, I've heard about that. Not just black. You know, whites. Mainly were white folks. Like I said, the people on the west, you know blacks, you know negroes we stay, negroes would stay on one side of town. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mr. Moore— (Unintelligible) Came over on south side of town just to, just to work. Okay. Mr. Moore, we've discussed a lot about you and your background and anything. At this time, I was just wondering, you know, your kids, they grew up here, they were born here and grew up. Yes. My two youngest girls. Okay, how did this affect them? Did they have any racial mishaps or anything like that? Well, my kids never really told me anything about any type of, you know, discrimination or any type of sexual or racial problems, you know, because they get along with the kids they go, go to school with and everything just fine. Like I said, one of my girls is, you know, debutante UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 20 cheerleaders. In fact—as a matter of fact, she’s the only—no, no I take that back. She’s—her and a friend hers only black in this debutante thing coming up in another three months. Mm-hmm. She—as a matter of fact, her white friends, you know, asked her come to (unintelligible) get in there. Mm-hmm. Well, that’s nice. Okay, so she's doing just fine. Doing just, doing just, just fine. Mm-hmm. And my other girl, she really didn’t have any problems with anybody and everything, you know. She never really told me anything about anybody being discriminatory toward her or anything. My wife has ran into some problems, naturally. You know, like I said, we both have by being older and everything. But this is when you were younger, growing up, right? Yes. Younger, when I was growing up, right. Okay. Like I said, my kids, they all really, you know, they enjoy Vegas. They enjoy doing things, you know, social activities that (unintelligible) coming around here and everything. But as far as any type of racism or anything, they have never came to me with any type of problems. Anything that has been really brought to—need to be brought to my attention. Right. Okay. Okay. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 21 That’s another thing that I can elaborate on is that on the Westside of town is typically a lot of blacks, we have a few whites over there. But, you know, they get along with us, we get along with them just fine because the Westside, north side is practically, almost, two or three miles apart. A lot of whites still on the north side, we get along just fine. Between us, you know, we have, you know, good parks (unintelligible) park out there and everything. So we don't have any problems, you know, (unintelligible) kids have any problems with them at all. You know, socialize and everything, school functions and everything. So nothing really has been brought to my attention, need to be brought to my attention. Okay. Okay, Mr. Moore, I see that you mentioned a lot about the different races. I guess that we had talked earlier and you had informed me that there was a lot of things you didn't really know about because you didn’t involve yourself with them as far as the whole history of Nevada, which is the reason why I have to do this project is to—interest to get some notes on Nevada history. Some more Nevada history. And you've talked pretty much about the, the racial aspect of the whole thing and economic and environmental, you've had some pretty good points I feel that were pretty strong. And at this time I just would—just like to have a little freelance talk or, you know, whatever about the earlier time, you know, the more up to date times. You know, participate in seeing the rebels play or—that’s pretty big in this town. That’s the only reason why I mentioned that, the Rebels basketball team. That’s a good social— Well, let me tell you son, I really don't get off into sports in particular. I'll watch, may watch a football game and stuff on television. I have never been to one of our university’s games or anything like that. Mm-hmm. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 22 (Unintelligible) the kids get off into it. The boys got off into it, myself I (unintelligible) watch it on TV, it's fine. You know I haven’t really got out and supported a team. Right. (Unintelligible) a team but I’m a tell you it has been a big asset for this town because I have noticed it has—like two years ago I reckon, you know, I heard they was national ranked number one in college football. (Unintelligible) up there, two or three, something like that, up in the national rankings. Mm-hmm. I'm not sure. But (unintelligible) you know that's the first time I really even heard about it to tell you the truth. (Unintelligible) Nevada was, you know, being noted for their sports. Mm-hmm. ‘Cause it is a small university. You know, like I said I have— Yes, we don’t have any pro teams. I’ve been to San Francisco where my boy is up there, I was stayed in Berkeley, some big places, you know, big universities. Here, you know, it’s small—small, small town, you know. Yes. And everything. There used to be only three buildings over there at the university. You know, so now's great to find they are being recognized in the sports, in young people sports. I mean, we was talking earlier—not on the tape—but you mentioned that it was called Southern Nevada State—? Yes. Southern Nevada State College. That’s what it was before. It was really small, huh? UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 23 Right. It was really a small school then. I don’t know the enrollment size or whatever but more—I think it was more like a trade school than a university. (Laughs) Okay. Yes. Let me see. There’s something else here, I had something to say about this town. Like the airport, I can talk about my job a little bit. Okay. The job I have, airport job, and about airports. We only used to have say about two airlines coming through there, you know. Oh. Is that right? You know, it was United and Air West. Mm-hmm. And right now, we know it’s been a lot of things, you know, happening. We got a few more airlines in there. Got Delta, TWA and National. Mm-hmm. You know, we got a lot of airlines moving in there now, you know. And so that's causing more business to come into Vegas and everything. So, right now we're trying it. They've been talking about enlarging the airport. Right. Because of the high demand of, you know, people coming in to Vegas and everything. Figure it’s, you know, of the airlines coming in to Vegas and everything. (Laughs) I don't know what's gonna happen now, cutting down this gas and everything, you know. Right, right. (Laughs) I can understand. UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 24 I don’t know what's gonna happen son with a lot of this stuff out here. But (unintelligible) work for United, they call to cut down to two of their flights, Pittsburg (unintelligible). But besides that, you know, it's really—it's pretty bad. But this town, let me tell you, ten years ago you can buy for little or nothing in this town. I mean, you know what I'm saying, you could buy—you know, food was cheap. Everything at abundance, everything you know, you know it was great. Right now you can’t get nothing hardly in this, you know, place and everything you know. (Unintelligible) Yes, I understand. There’s a lot of things imported—imported here, you know, because they don’t have a lot of big factories. Right, right. And that's thing, too. We don't have any. In fact, that’s one thing I love about this town is that we don't have a lot of air pollution and stuff going on in this town because like, nothing like LA. And I’m a tell you, the way this valley is laid, I don’t know if your teachers—professors never told you but we livin’ in a, like a, like a valley like. Mm-hmm. So the hot air goes up, the cooler goes down, so somehow it takes out you know any type of pollution that may come into the town. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes, that's one thing I like about—we got this factory out here, we got this chemical waste place out here, about—I know it’s out there by the stadium out there, out there. You know, chemical waste products, some sewage, that's the only thing we got. You gotta have that naturally. Mm-hmm. But we have another out there in Henderson, we've got a chemical plan out there. You know, UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 25 that's the only time it stinks, when you go out to Henderson. I got a cousin live out there, some relatives out there. (Unintelligible) besides that, you know, town is good, good breathing air and everything. You know, so really, we’re growing on just, just fine and everything. Okay. That's nice to know, Mr. Moore. You seem to know pretty much about the industry build up and things about that, you—things you find interesting. I just remembered that you had mentioned something about that, you know, earlier. You know, before we began to record and things like that, we talked about a few things. Some things I feel we should have saved (laughs) for the recording. Well, like I said, I’m just doing this to the best of my ability and everything. I had never conducted, I had never been interviewed for anything. Yes, I understand. You know, so— (Laughs) You’re doing a fine job. So that’s why I don’t know what's going on. You know, I'm answering the questions like (unintelligible). Okay. Mr. Moore, how do you view Las Vegas today? How is it? How would you rate it as far as other, Southern Las Vegas, other cities around the nation? How would you rate it? I’d rate Vegas, I say for myself and everything and my people, my kids— You know, economic conditions (unintelligible) I will tell you, economic—you know, the whole thing about the whole place, it's very good for a person to come here who want to make some good money, some quick money and everything, the way people like to come to Vegas, because it's a tourist place all year round. We have tourists here all year round. If people can come in here who wants to work, they can make some good UNLV University Libraries Daniel A. Moore 26 money in this town. You know, besides the money aspect of it and everything, the town is growing. It’s becoming more of a family like setting because we’re building, they’re building more and more houses all over the place. Mm-hmm. You know, realtors come in here and buyin up all the land and stuff because they figure that, you know, Vegas is—soon it’s going to be a pretty good big city here. But besides that, the town is definitely booming. Town is definitely getting larger, and the people seem to be more—people coming here seem to be more stable and staying in Vegas. Before, people would not stay in Vegas due the fact it was, I figured they couldn’t stay in place because of the sudden changes or you know, you know, like really have a high volume of people coming here during the summer when it's hot and everything. Mm-hmm. Okay and a lot o