Meeting minutes for Consolidated Student Senate, University of Nevada, Las Vegas, January 3, 1984

CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS AGENDA SENATE MEETING #9 SESSION 14 JANUARY 3, 1984 4:00 P.M. MSU 201 I. Call to Order II. Roll Call III. Approval of Minutes #7 & #8 (with corrections from the chair) IV. Executive Board Nominations A. Approval of Student Services Coirmittee Chairman - Robert Eglet B. Approval of Entertainment & Programming Board Chairman - Bob Compan V. Old Business A. Appointment of Senate President Pro Tempore 1. James Ohriner 2. Robert Eglet B. Approval of Resolution #121383-01 (to be renumbered 010384-1) - Re-organization of Nevada Student Affairs and Student Services - Shaffer C. Approval of Senate Bill #22 - Reorganization of Nevada Student Affairs and Student Services - Shaffer D. Transfer All Budget Authority for Student Services Activities to Nevada Student Affairs from 906 to 911 Effective upon approval - Shaffer E. Approval of Kwik-Kopi Qn-Cairpus Copier Service Contract - Shaffer and Eglet F. Discussion/Action/Approval of New CSUN Election Policy and Procedure - Friedman G. Nominations for Senate Seats 1. Education College (2) a. Liz Cory (application not turned in) b. Nanda Briggs (grade sheet not turned in) UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 SENATE MEETING # 8 AGENDA CONTINUED PAGE 2 2. Health Sciences College a. Sunny Shelley (okay) b. Renee Bielby (okay) q W 3. Academic Advisement College a. Mona Borsellino (okay) b. Doug Arone (okay) c. Tom Verma (application not turned in) d. Vykky Cave (application not turned in) H. Approval of Senate Bill #19, Interpretation of "Closed Personnel Session" - Ohriner I. Approval of Senate Bill #20, "Public Information Act" - Ohriner (table) J. Request for Monthly Stipend Increase from $200.00 to $285.00 for the (D-l) Position of KCJNV Program Director - Hawley VI. New Business A. Appointment of Senators 1. Education College a. Liz Cory b. Nanda Briggs 2. Health Sciences College a. Sunny Shelley b. Renee Bielby 3. Academic Advisement College a. Mona Borsellino b. Doug Arone c. Tom Verma d. Vykky Cave B. Approval of Resolution #010384-02 (originally numbered 14-1) - Laboratory Science for Night Students - Eglet C. Amendment of Item C, Old Business, Senate Bill #22, Amend by Substitution, That: N.S.A. Become A Subcommittee of the Student Services Committee - This Amendment is Contingent upon Approval of Senator Eglet as Chairman of Student Services SENATE MEETING # 8 AGENDA CONTINUED PAGE 2 D. Submission of Stipend Increase from $285.00 to $325.00 for the D-l Position of Yellin' Rebel Editor - Dimick E. Appointment of Academic Advisement Senator - Doug Arone - Lee F. Appointment of Allied Health Senator - Sunny Shelley - Lee G. Appointment of Education Senator - Nanda Briggs - Lee*** JL 4' H. Discussion/Action Concerning Dismissal of Nevada Student Affairs Director & Removal of Stipend and Fee Waiver for Mini Term 1984 and Spring 1984 - Eckert VII. Open Discussion VI11. Ad j ournment *** Ms. Briggs has not turned in a new application or grade release form, until such time, a motion to approve must be ruled out of order! CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS MEMORANDUM ' TO: ALL SENATORS FROM: CATHERINE CLAY, CSUN SENATE PRESIDENT DATE: DECEMBER 28, 19 8 3 RE: AGENDA CORRECTION Please correct item D of Old Business to read as follows: D. Transfer Budget Authority and Fund Balance of Student Services Account (904) to Contingency (906) effective upon approval. Thank you. UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 SESSION 14 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 4:00 P.M. MSU 201 I. Call to Order Senate President Clay called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m. II. Roll Call Lynn Best, "Sari Bloom." Bloom, "Here." Best, "Jay Lezcano."(no answer) Best, "Steve Dimick."(no answer) Best, "Bill Haldeman."(no answer) Best, "Tom Hawley." Hawley, "Here." Best, "James Ohriner." Ohriner, "Here." Best, "Patrick Adams." Adams, "Here." Best, "Karen Cohen." Cohen, "Here." Best, "Robert Eglet." Eglet, "Here." Best, "John Fazi." Fazi, "Yo." Best, "Gus Varona." Varona, "Here." Best, "Rian Flourens." Flourens, "Here." Best, "Hal Friedman."(no answer) Best, "Mark Doubrava." Doubrava, "Here." Best, "Karen Eckert."(no answer) Best, "Cara Iddings." Iddings, "Here." Senate President Clay, "Okay. For your record, the following people are excused, Eckert, Friedman and Haldeman. Eleven is quorum. We have eleven in attendance so we'll continue. The next item is item III, Approval of Minutes #7 and 8. The chair has the following corrections. Minutes #7, page 13, it's about the top fourth or the top half of the page." Senator Ohriner, "What page is it?" Clay, "Page 13. It should say that his, Jay Lezcano1s, it shouldn't be absence, it's leaving. He was leaving the meeting. And the same thing with Flourens, he left the m-eting. On page 14, due to my memo that was written 12/14, all motions after this point are called out of order by the chair." Senator Cohen, "After what point?" Clay, "After point of where it says, 'James Ohriner withdrew that motion.1" "Where is it?"(unknown) Clay, "On page 14, top of the page." UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 2 Ohriner, "Would you state for the record under what rule do you rule this out of order?" Clay, "It's the memo on the 14th. With consulting some past senate presidents, I was advised that a person walking out of a meeting for poltiical reasons, if quorum is broke for political reasons, the meeting should be adjourned immediately." Ohriner, "Is there another rule that you're using as a cite(? Clay, "Just that when quorum is not found to be present, there's nothing that can be done except for adjourn the meeting." Cohen, "There wasn't quorum present until after the motion was made, then?" Clay, "There was, Senator Adams left." Ohriner, "At what point?" Clay, "There was a call for the house and then the motion was withdrawn and then he entered again. The call for the house was not completed." Ohriner, "I'm sorry, I still don't follow you." Clay, "On the tape, there's two times of a person walking out of Senator Adams walking out of the meeting. The first time there was a call for the house. Mr. Adams was in presence." Vice President Shaffer, "Is there quorum here?" Lynn Best, "No." Clay, "The second one is . . ." Cohen, "Point of order." Cohen, "Does this meeting have quorum?" Clay, "No." Cohen, "No further business can be accomplished then. I think according to the rules . . . " Ohriner, "According to the same rule, you must adjourn." Cohen, "I think you must adjourn the meeting immediately. According to your rules." Clay, "I'm still in the middle of the . . . " Ohriner, "Call for quorum." Cohen, "You just told us the rule says you have to adjourn immediately. Those were your words." Senator Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "The senator did not, for political reasons, he just said he would be right back. He went upstairs. . ." Ohriner, "I called a point of quorum." Cohen, "It doesn't matter why he left." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 3 Clay, "Call for a point of quorum. The chair recognizes that when the person is leaving. The senator just made a point of information stating that the senator did say he'd be right back. Is that correct?" Eglet, "He's on his way now. At this moment." Ohriner, "I have called a point of quorum. That takes precedence over everything . . . " Senator Hawley returned to the meeting. Clay, "And I noticed your call . . . " Eglet, "Would you like to state where that is in Robert's Rules of Order?" Ohriner, "Definitely." Cohen, "Well, I would like the Senate President to state what her rule is about no further business can be accomplished when quorum is found not to be present." "Never mind."(unknown) Cohen, "She just quoted the rule. I'd like to see it." Clay, "I'd like to, if you'd like me to reverse the tape, I'll reverse it and hear what I said. I said I was advised. And I took the advice." Ohriner, "Would you read your memo?" Cohen, "Well, what happened just now is exactly what happened in that meeting. A senator left and returned. We were unable to continue that meeting. We should be unable to continue this meeting. It's a violation of the law." Ohriner, "If you read the quote that you used in Robert's Rules of Order, it says the minute it is broken, we must adjourn. And you did not adjourn this meeting." Clay, "Mr. Hawley, was it true, in fact, that you said to the people across the table that you'd be right back?" Hawley, "Yes." Cohen, "That doesn't mean there was quorum while he was gone. I think we should look up the rule for once." Ohriner, "What page do you quote under that part of your memo?" Clay, "I don't have the page listed." Ohriner, "What is the Robert's Rule number?" Clay, "I don't have that listed, either." Ohriner, "I'll find it for you, then." Clay, "Those are the corrections the chair has. Is there any other additions or corrections to minutes #7?" There was no reply. Clay, "Is there any objections to this being adopted?" MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 4 Senator Flourens, "From what place is this ruled out? From the top of the page or New Business?" Clay, "Correct. If there's no objections, the minutes stand approved. Is there any additions or corrections to minute #8? Cohen, "They suck." Ohriner, "Wait a second." Clay, "Is there objections?" Ohriner, "I say, I say that until we clear this up we delay the approve of minutes. I wouldn't mind if you try to find or refer to Robert's Rules." Cohen, "I think it would be really wise for us to try to follow the rules." Clay, "Is there any additions or corrections to minute #8? If there's no objections . . . " Cohen, "So, whenever during a meeting there is found not to be a quorum present, the only thing to be done is to adjourn." "Do we have quorum?"(unknown) Ohriner and Cohen(simultaneously), "We didn't have quorum." Ohriner, "She refused to . . ." Cohen, "We should've adjourned at that time." Hawley, "Excuse me, is not quorum determined by a count of the house, I mean, doesn't it have to be called, roll call?" Clay, Cohen and Ohriner(simultaneously): Clay, "It wasn't called(roll call), it was observed that you weren't here." Cohen, "It was known that there was no quorum while you were gone, senator." Ohriner, "It was called . . ."(could not hear the rest of his statement) Clay, "However, in this case, a senator did say they would be returning." Cohen, "It doesn't matter. The rule doesn't say, 'If Tom Hawley feels like going upstairs and coming back down because he's got something to do' it says, 'Whenever during a meeting there is found not to be quorum present,' it was pointed out by at least two senators. This meeting should be adjourned or we can all stand here and break the rules, but this is fucked up." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "When quorum is broken, there was no roll call vote taken." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 5 Cohen, "It was pointed out that there was no quorum." Eglet, "It's not stated in the minutes how many were present at that time, who had left the meeting or whatever." Ohriner, "The point was called and the chair refused to count the house." Cohen, "We both pointed out that there was no quorum." Hawley, "If such is the case, I'd prefer that also in meeting #7 where the same situation occurred." Cohen, "And it's the chair's ruling is that quorum is broken and no further business could be conducted and this is the same case. 'Where is the consistency?' to quote a certain person in this room." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "If the chair has made a ruling on this and senators have disputes, I suggest that they take it to the Judicial Council." Ohriner, "Point of information. If we were to walk out of this meeting right now for any other reason according to your memo, we would not be assessed an unexcused absence. Is that correct?" Clay, "Excuse me?" Ohriner, "According to your memo, if we were to walk out in the same fashion that they did and break quorum, and, thus, we have to adjourn the meeting. According to your memo, we wouldn't be assessed an unexcused absence." Clay, "The December 14th memo. There was another memo, also, that was written by me stating the new policy starting January 1st, that if you leave this room without prior notice of the chair." Cohen, "It says permission." Clay, "Or permission, either way, if you get notice from the chair, the chair will usually give you permission. That'll be an unexcused absence and it will go toward your three unexcused absences according to the Constitution." Ohriner, "For which semester?" Clay, "Starting January 1st." Ohriner, "Where's the semester?" Clay, "I said, starting January 1st." Ohriner, "But where's the semester?" Clay, "That's not the question that's on the floor right now. " MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 6 Cohen, "His question is . . ." Ohriner, "Point of parliamentary inquiry. If you are going by the fact that the semester starts January 1st and goes until the end of Summer Session I then you have a senator seated here that is no longer a senator. What part of the semester is January 1 until the beginning of the Spring Semester?" Clay, "That has not been written down anywhere except for in a past memo of mine. There is no policy stating what a semester is for senators' absences." Ohriner, "So where would this unexcused be assessed? This mini-term? Three unexcused absences allowed during the mini-term? 11 Clay, "I would presume they last the whole semester of spring." Cohen, "It's not spring semester yet. That's his question." Ohriner, "But what, I'm trying to ask you where you're defining this. Where will the chair define this?" Clay, "The chair defines that the fall semester is over." Ohriner, "Okay." Clay, "And this is a new semester." Ohriner, "But when does this, this mini-term is part of the spring semester." Clay, "I would assume that everything would end during my term. It's up to the new senate president to decide whether my term be considered part of that semester." Ohriner, "I'm asking you what you're going to interpret it as." Clay, "I'm interpreting it until now until I'm out of office if a person accumulates three unexcused absences, I will dis-miss them." Ohriner, "When did this, I'm trying to find out where the end, where your semester, where you're constitutionally dividing the semester. Because the constitution says 'per semester,' three unexcused per semester." During Ohriner's above statement, Fazi stated, "Give us the time frame, please." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "I just stated from now until the end of my term, three unexcused absences, the senator will be dismissed." Hawley, "In that case, does that work retroactively, also, that you consider the semester as actually starting at the beginning of the term? I mean do you interpret it that,(?), that you're assessing the unexcused absences back to the beginning of your taking office?" Clay, "No. It says 'per semester.'" MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 7 Hawley, "You're changing it to suit the purpose of your goals." Ohriner, "When did the semester start?" Clay, "Which semester?" Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "First of all, I don't think there's any, you know, it's very clear,. There is no defined, it's not defined any-where in the constitution what the semesters consist of . . . Hawley, "It's in Bylaw 16." Eglet, "Excuse me, excuse me. There is something in Bylaw 16 that says when a semester is?" Clay, "As per G.P.A." Ohriner, Fazi, "Senate Bill 016." Clay, "Senate Bill 016 refers to G.P.A.'s. It does not refer to absences." Cohen, "But it is the only written guide that exists." Ohriner, "It's the only definition we have." Eglet, "Buti,i. nevertheless, the interpretation, you cannot, I don't think you can just say, well this, this goes for this, just because it was written for G.P.A.'s. You know, I would suggest that the senator who is so concerned with this that, that he write a senate bill, whereby it would deal exactly with this case." Clay, "That's something what I suggested to the senator in my office." Ohriner, "However, we have to have something working now. There has to be some way for us to interpret the constitution or else it can suit you one time and not another." Clay, "I suggest then taking it to bylaw." Ohriner, "I suggest that you have some type of interpretation It's the objective, it's the purp, it's the . . ." Clay, "And I have told you from now January 1st to the end of my term . . . " Ohriner, "But when was the first semester of the, there are, semester implies two." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "Senator Hald* Ohriner, I think you're pressuring the Senate President to make a decision that is very unclear, defined for by any other Senate President . . . " Ohriner, "I am." Eglet, "And she said, she said, she sent out a new memo MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 8 stating what the policy is now. If you don't like it, I suggest you write a bylaw or a senate bill, but you can't make something retroactive." Ohriner, "I'm not talking about retroactive, sir. I'm talking about the fact that she's trying to make a semester count when not saying when the first semester was. You're saying this is the second semester. When was the first semester?" Clay, "For the 14th session, it started November 1st." Cohen, "Oh, that's fucked up." Ohriner, "How are there, there's four semesters a year?" Cohen, "That means we had a November-December session which was about six weeks or two months. Now we have a five month session? That doesn't make any sense." Ohriner, "You know, a semester implies two." Cohen, "Point of order." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Cohen, "This meeting should have been adjourned, and I suggest that you adjourn it at this point." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "And also it's not defined anywhere, Senator Ohriner, whether unexcused absences from one session carry on to another session, considering senate elections." Ohriner, "It does specifically state in the.constitution per semester, not per session." Eglet, "But . . . " Ohriner, "But what?" Eglet, "I don't think you can interpret it that way in a different session of the senate." Ohriner, "It's not a matter of. . ." Clay, "First of all, it was a point of information. Are you finished with your point of information? Is there any objections the minutes #8? Since there's no objections, these minutes will be considered adopted. The next item is Executive Board Nominations. The Executive Board has nominated the approval of Student Services Committee Chair-man, Robert Eglet." Cohen, "Point of order." Clay, "State your point." Cohen, "This meeting should have been adjourned. Would the chair please make some sort of a decision?" MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 9 Clay, "This meeting will not be adjourned." Cohen, "Why not?" Clay, "We have quorum." Cohen, "But we did not have quorum. Can you deny what this says? Do you want to follow the rules? What is your problem?" Ohriner, "Point of order." Clay, "Do you want to deny the process of some things done." Ohriner, "Point of order." Cohen, "No, see, this is it, this is it. You made it apply to there, you should make it apply to here. You're the one who's always asking for consistency. I think that's even on the tape." Ohriner, "Point of order." Clay, "State your point." Ohriner, "When you will read the minutes from this, you will note that quorum, point of quorum was brought up, and, there fore, you will have to come out with another memo saying that quorum was broken at this time, and you can go speak to those same past senate presidents, and they say, 'Well, when quorum was broken, you're supposed to adjourn the meet-ing. So you will have to rule everything that we do from now on, for the rest of this meeting out of order, if you want to remain consistent, Catherine." Cohen, "If you want to follow the rules." Ohriner, "That's what it's going to read in the minutes." Clay, "Okay, this meeting is, uh, hang on one sec . . . " Cohen, "It says adjourned in the rules (?)" Eglet, "Recess, recess." Cohen, "It does not say 'recess.' It says 'adjourned." Clay, "Excuse me." Cohen, "It's on page 85." Ohriner, "It's what you wrote on your, your quote." Clay, "I'm not looking for that." Cohen, "So whenever during a meeting there is found not to be a quorum present the only thing to be done is to adjourn. Senator Fazi, "Catherine, what they just did was . . . " Clay, "Would a senator please . . . " Fazi(continuing his statement), "Was they just hung you with your own rope, if you didn't notice. She's just been hung with her own rope. It's simple as that. She allowed it to happen, she's allowed it to happen all semester, you know." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 10 Ohriner, "And it will reflect on the tape that the chair. . I heard her say 'there is no quorum present.1" Cohen, "It was pointed out by at least two senators. Rules are rules." Fazi, "That's true." Cohen, "And no matter how creatively you read them, they're still going to say the same thing." Clay, "This meeting will be recessed for five minutes." Cohen, "You cannot recess it. You can adjourn it. You are fucked up and you can put that on the tape." Eglet, "You are fucked up." Cohen, "No, you are fucked up, mister." Fazi, "Okay, children, let's all calm down and get back . . (The tape recorder was turned off for the recess.) Clay, "The ninth meeting is now called back to order. Will the secretary please take roll." Lynn Best, "Sari Bloom." Bloom, "Here." Best, "Jay Lezcano." Lezcano, "Here." Best, "Steve Dimick." Dimick, "Here." Best, "Bill Haldeman."(no answer) Best, "Tom Hawley." Hawley, "Here." Best, "James Ohriner." Ohriner, "Here." Best, "Patrick Adams." Adams, "Here." Best, "Karen Cohen." Cohen, "Here." Best, "Robert Eglet." Eglet, "Here." Best, "John Fazi." Fazi, "Here." Best, "Gus Varona." Varona, "Here." Best, "Rian Flourens." Flourens, "Here." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 11 Best, "Hal Friedman."(no answer) Best, "Mark Doubrava." Doubrava, "Here." Best, "Karen Eckert."(no answer) Best, "Cara Iddings." Iddings, "Here." Hawley,., "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Hawley, "We have someone here who is not a senator. Accord-ing to your rules, three unexcused absences per semester, you can drop someone. Mr. Lezcano has had three unexcused absences. He is out. It's defined in the constitution. Your memo of October 2 6 says that the semester, semesters will be defined as July 1st through December 31st, and regardless of whatever your second memo said, I believe it was December 14th, it can't be retroactive. The absences are noted. They are meeting #37, meeting #38 and meeting #7 of the 14th session." Clay, "I don't believe unexcused absences for the 13th session would count towards the 14th session." Hawley, "But they do in your memo." Ohriner, "And you can't make a new memo retroactive." Clay, "That's a memo, that's not a policy that's been passed by the senate .it's not binding to anyone but people who want to follow." Hawley, "That is policy. It's your memo and it says it's your 1983-84 policy." Clay, "And I still don't believe a 13th session senator's unexcused absences carries on to the 14th senate." Hawley, "Well, you wrote down that you did believe that. That's your policy. You can't change it retroactively. It applies regardless of what your November, or December 14th memo changes are. You can't change the past." Eglet, "Point of information." Clay, "State your point." Eglet, "Was the intent of the memo, though, to include carry-ing over unexcused absences from one session to the next." Ohriner, "That's the exact intent (?) . . . " Eglet, "How do you know? Did you write the memo?" Ohriner, "'Cause that's what the memo says." Eglet, "She wrote the memo, she knows the intent." Hawley, "That's what the memo says, it says that's the policy." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 12 Ohriner, "That's what it says, it says 'absence' . . . " Eglet, "When that memo was written, though, I don't think she took into consideration, therefore . . . " Ohriner, "She didn't take into consideration. . .(?)" Eglet(continuing), "(?) . . .Second of all, it is not binding policy, it's a memo." Cohen, "Whatever she decides this week is binding policy." Clay, "For the record, Eckert, Friedman and Haldeman are excused for the second roll call. Just a reminder, there is a new policy in effect, January 1. This one will not changed until the end of my term. That is if you walk out of a meeting without prior notice by getting permis-sion from the chair, it'll be considered an unexcused absence towards your three unexcused absences." Fazi, "Point of information." Clay, "So if you need to go to the restroom, get information downstairs, go upstairs, whatever, contact the chair and get excused for it. If there's a lot of you that want to leave at the same time to get different little things or to get something to eat, we can recess the meeting for five minutes. January 2 4th there is a new policy. If you don't show up, unexcused, no matter what the excuse is, unless you're ill and I expect you to be ill enough that you have a doctor taking care of you, hospitalized, or there is an emergency. Emergencies will be taken care of as per case. Not all of us know when our car will break down on the freeway, or when our grandfathers or parents or close relative will die." Hawley, "Excuse me. You didn't rule on . . ." Clay, "I still believe that you cannot carry over 13th ses-sion absence . . . " Hawley, "You're ruling that you were mistaken when you wrote this." Clay, "Excuse me?" Hawley, "You're ruling that you were mistaken and that retroactively you're going to put your new policy retro-active to the beginning when you first wrote this?" Clay, "I, no. At the time that I wrote that, I did not perceive people interpreting that if you continued from the 13th session to the 14th session Hawley, "It appears you wrote it to cover just such a possibility." Clay, "No, I did not write it that way." Cohen, "Then why did you use those dates?" Clay, "Arbitrary. Just picked them out of the air." Cohen, "Oh, that was nice." MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 1984 PAGE 13 Clay, "Anyway, this meeting will be adjourned until next week." The meeting was adjourned at 4:26 p.m. Respectfully submitted by, Catherine Clay CSUN Senate President Respectfully prepared by, Lynn Best CSUN Secretary CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 SESSION 14 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 4:00 P.M. MSU 2 01 I. Call to Order Senate President Clay called the meeting to order at 4:00p.m. II. Roll Call Members in Attendance Sari Bloom Tom Hawley James Ohriner Patrick Adams Karen Cohen Robert Eglet John Fazi Gus Varona Rian Flourens Mark Doubrava Cara Iddings Senate President Clay announced that Senators Eckert, Fried-man and Haldeman should be listed as excused absences. III. Approval of Minutes #7 and #8(with corrections from the chair) On page 13 of Minutes #7, the tenth and eleventh sentences the word "absence" should be changed to "leaving" to read as follows: "Senate President Clay stated that Lezcano's leaving will be unexcused. Flourens1 leaving is excused." Senate President Clay ruled everything in the minutes from meeting #7 after the first sentence(beginning with New Busi-ness) out of order as per her memorandum dated December 14, 1983. Senator Hawley left the meeting. Senator Cohen stated that according to Senate President Clay's rules, quorum has been broken at this meeting and the chair should adjourn the meeting. Senator Ohriner called for a point of quorum. Members Absent Jay Lezcano - unexcused(late) Steve Dimick - unexcused(late) Bill Haldeman - excused(absent) Hal Friedman - excused(absent) Karen Eckert - excused(absent) UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 19 8 4 PAGE 19 Senator Eglet stated that before Senator Hawley left he said he would be right back. Senator Cohen requested that the chair quote the rule on which she made her decision to rule out of order the last part of minutes #7 beginning with New Business on page 14. Senate President Clay stated that she was advised as to that decision and did not quote a rule. Senator Hawley returned to the meeting. Senate President Clay asked whether there were any other corrections to the minutes from meetings #7 and #8. There being no objections the minutes from meeting #7 stood approved as corrected. Senator Ohriner requested that the chair not conduct any further business at this meeting until the rule was located. Senator Lezcano was present at 4:07 p.m. There was discussion in attempts to clarify Senate Presi-dent Clay's past and present absence policy. Senator Ohriner raised a point of parliamentary inquiry as to what part of the semester is January 1. Senator Dimick arrived at the meeting. Senate President Clay stated that the policy for absences is in effect beginning January 1, 1984. Senator Hawley asked whether the fall semester's unexcused absences will be considered. Senate President Clay stated that accumulation of unexcused absences will begin on January 1. Senator Cohen raised a point of order stating that the meeting should have been adjourned when quorum was broken. Senate President Clay asked whether there were any additions or corrections to minutes #8. There were none. There being no objections, minutes #8 stood approved. Senator Cohen raised a point of order stating that if Senate President Clay is to be consistent then she must adjourn this senate meeting, because quorum was broken. Senate President Clay stated'! that there was no reason to adjourn the meeting. Senator Ohriner raised a point of order stating that if busi-ness is conducted at this meeting, the chair must also rule these minutes out of order for the same reasons part of minutes #7 were ruled out of order. Senate President Clay recessed the meeting at 4:17 p.m. for five minutes. The meeting was called back to order at 4:21 p.m. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #9 JANUARY 3, 1984 PAGE 3 Second Roll Call Members in Attendance Sari Bloom Jay Lezcano Steve Dimick Members Absent Bill Haldeman - excused Hal Friedman - excused Karen Eckert - excused Tom Hawlev James Ohriner Patrick Adams Karen Cohen Robert Ecrlet John Fazi Gus Varona Rian Flourens Mark Doubrava Cara Iddings Senator Hawley stated that according to Clay's memorandum dated October 26, 1983 there is a senator present at this meeting who should not be a senator(Lezcano] since that person has accumulated three unexcused absences for senate meetings #37, #38(session 13) and #7(session 14). Senate President Clay stated that absences from senate ses-sion 13 do not apply to senators of session 14. Senator Eglet raised a point of information stating that the intent of the memorandum can only be interpreted by the person who wrote it which was Catherine Clay. Senate President Clay stated that for the second roll call