Snavely, Ann and Charles Interview, 2014 February 5 and 2015 January 8. OH-01726. [Transcript.] Oral History Research Center, Special Collections & Archives, University Libraries, University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Las Vegas, Nevada.
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INTERVIEWS WITH S. CHARLES SNAVELY AND ANN M. SNAVELY Oral Histories Conducted by Lois Goodall and Claytee D. White West Charleston Neighborhoods: An Oral History Project of Ward 1 Oral History Research Center at UNLV University Libraries University of Nevada Las Vegas ii ©The West Charleston Neighborhoods: An Oral History Project of Ward 1 University of Nevada Las Vegas, 2014 Produced by: The Oral History Research Center at UNLV – University Libraries Director: Claytee D. White Project Managers: Claytee D. White, Barbara Tabach Transcriber: Kristin Hicks Editors: Stefani Evans, Maggie Lopes, Barbara Tabach Interviewers: Claytee D. White, Barbara Tabach, Shirley Emerson, Lois Goodall, Judy Harrell, Anna Huddleston, Linda McSweeney, Wendy Starkweather iii The recorded interview and transcript have been made possible through the generosity of Dr. Harold Boyer. The Oral History Research Center enables students and staff to work together with community members to generate this selection of first-person narratives. The participants in this project thank the university for the support given that allowed an idea the opportunity to flourish. The transcript received minimal editing that includes the elimination of fragments, false starts, and repetitions in order to enhance the reader’s understanding of the material. All measures have been taken to preserve the style and language of the narrator. In several cases photographic sources accompany the individual interviews. The following interview is part of a series of interviews conducted under the auspices of the Boyer Early Las Vegas Oral History Project. Claytee D. White, Project Director Director, Oral History Research Center University Libraries University Nevada, Las Vegas iv PREFACE S. Charles Snavely, a long-time Las Vegas pediatrician, arrived in Nevada in 1965 with his wife, Ann, and two children courtesy of the United States Air Force. The family lived at Nellis Air Force Base while Charlie completed his Barry Plan commitment to the military. In separate interviews, Charlie and Ann discuss their arrival in Las Vegas, their first house in the Glen Heather area of Ward 1, and their current house in the Scotch 80s (pictured above). Charlie and Ann met at a small private hospital in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, where Ann was working as a nurse. The two University of Pennsylvania graduates, now married 63 years, raised their children in their Scotch 80s house and so far have not been tempted to move elsewhere.v TABLE OF CONTENTS Interview with S. Charles Snavely February 5, 2014 in Las Vegas, Nevada Conducted by Lois Goodall Preface…………………………………………………………………………………………..iv Charles Snavely talks about his hometown, Middletown, Pennsylvania, entering the Air Force to avoid the doctors’ draft, and arriving at Nellis in 1965 through the Air Force with wife, Ann, and two children. Recalls “marvelous” neighbor “Jasper” Speciale and family activities..………. 1-5 Remembers his education in Pennsylvania and meeting wife, Ann, in Lebanon, PA, and his first partner and mentor in Las Vegas, Anthony Carter. Describes amenities and owner association in Scotch 80s neighborhood. Supports medical school for UNLV……………………………..…5-9 Index Charles Snavely Interview…………………………………………………………..……10 Interview with Ann M. Snavely January 8, 2015 in Las Vegas, Nevada Conducted by Claytee D. White Ann Snavely recalls arriving in Las Vegas, living at Nellis Air Force Base, and socializing on base. Describes first house and neighborhood in Glen Heather and playing golf at Municipal Golf Course and Las Vegas Country Club……………………………………………..……11-15 Discusses where children went to school and why they moved to Scotch 80s from Glen Heather; early barbeques in Scotch 80s, and affiliations with First Presbyterian Church, Junior League of Las Vegas, and Assistance League of Las Vegas………………………………………..…..16-22 Cumulative Index……………………………………………………………..………….…..23-24 vi vii Today is February fifth, 2014. My name is Lois Goodall and today I will be interviewing Dr. Snavely. I'm going to ask him to say his name and spell it for you. My name is S. Charles Snavely, S-N-A-V-E-L-Y. Very good. Today I'm in his home, which is in Ward I. What is this community called? Scotch 80s. The Scotch 80s, yes, on Silver Lane. Let's start out by talking about your childhood; where were you born and that type of thing? I was born in Middletown, Pennsylvania, which is in central Pennsylvania, 1936. 1936, okay, very good. Were you living in the city or in a rural area? No. It was a small town, about 10,000, Middletown. What were your parents doing? What was their professions? They were both natives of Middletown. My mother was a housewife. My father was a civil servant working for the United States Air Force. There was an air base in Middletown. I see, very good. When did you first come to Las Vegas? 1965. What was the purpose? Was that a visit or were your coming to live here at that time? Give you some background on why we came to Las Vegas. I finished medical school in 1962 and finished my internship in 1963. At that time there was a doctors’ draft as Vietnamese War was starting to build up. To get out of the doctors’ draft and finish your residency in your intended specialty, you had the opportunity to join something called the Barry Plan. If you were accepted then you could finish your residency and then you owed Uncle Sam, Air Force or [United States] Navy, two years and you could practice your specialty rather than be a general 2 medical officer. I see. And what was your specialty? I'm a pediatrician. I finished my residency in 1965 at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and then was sent to Nellis Air Force Base. To Nellis, oh, very good. So that was 1965 that you came to Nellis? Correct. And where did you live at that time? Did you live on base? We lived on base for two years, the two years that we were there. The heads of pediatrics, internal med, surgery and OB/GYN got houses on base; the other officers had to live off base. I see. And then when you finished your commitment to the Air Force, then you decided to stay here in Las Vegas? Yeah. I decided quite soon after I arrived here. I happened to like the climate in Las Vegas a great deal. And then a nice gentleman offered me an opportunity to practice with him in 1967. And who was that? That was Anthony Carter. I owe him a great debt. I'm sure he was happy to have you. Now, where did you live after you left the air base? We lived in Glen Heather, which is really approximately two blocks south of where we live now, just south of Oakey [Boulevard] and barely east of Rancho [Drive]. So you've lived in Las Vegas Ward I, then, since 1965. Since 1967. Sixty-seven, yes. Well, very good. Tell me what it was like in Las Vegas at that time. Well, coming from a reasonably small town, it was a little busier. But living where we did, we were on the fringe of western Las Vegas. Some of the streets became dirt roads, at Rancho. So 3 this was the western frontier at that time. Now, did you have children at that time? We had two children, both of which were born while I was a resident in Philadelphia. Then, of course, they came here with us in 1965. Where did they attend school? They attended school at Rex Bell Elementary School and then—and this is the reason we live where we do today—my wife wanted them to go to middle school in Hyde Park [Middle School]. So she decided we would move to the present house and we did so in 1974. So it's really 40 years this year. Now, your wife, Ann, is a professional, also. Right. She was a school nurse. She had a bachelor's in nursing from the University of Pennsylvania and worked as a school nurse. She had taught some nursing back in Philadelphia and became a school nurse in Las Vegas. Very good. Did your children enjoy living in Las Vegas, as far as you know? As far as I know. In fact, Beth Ann has remained here in Las Vegas. Beth Ann has remained here. My son died in 1994, I believe it was. And Elizabeth has stayed here and she enjoyed Las Vegas. Very good. So she went to elementary school at Rex Bell and Hyde Park. Right, Hyde Park and then [Ed W.]Clark High School. My son went to Hyde Park and then went to [Bishop] Gorman [High School]. I see, very good. Did your neighborhood have block parties and get-togethers? At that time when you first moved here, did you know your neighbors? 4 I knew a classic neighbor to the west of us. And who was that? “Jasper” Speciale, who in spite of his reputation, was a marvelous neighbor. Jasper was an illegal bookmaker, but he was just a wonderful man. That's great. What did your children do for activities in the hot summer months? They attended camp through the Presbyterian Church. We're members of the First Presbyterian Church and they attended camp in I guess Fresno area, whatever it is, yeah. Then we got in the habit of going to the Four Corners of Colorado to a dude ranch. Oh, that sounds like fun. We spent many a summer a couple of weeks up there every summer. And we still go up there, not to the dude ranch, but we still go up there. It's a beautiful area, isn't it? It's a wonderful area, especially in the summertime. Right. Where did you shop at that time? Like where did Ann go shopping for groceries and where did you shop for clothing? Do you remember? I mostly shopped for clothing in San Francisco, yes. I barely remember shopping. I was a fairly busy fellow and I assume she went to Smiths [Food King], but I really don't even remember that. At that time Ronzone's had a department store and there was a Sears. Was that downtown? Yes. I think it's subsequently moved to the Boulevard Mall or something. I could be wrong about that. That's so long ago. And a Sears store downtown, a catalog store. I don't know. That's all I remember about shopping. As I recall the Boulevard Mall that you mentioned was the first mall that we had in Las 5 Vegas; is that correct? I think so. I think it was. Very good. Now, going back into Las Vegas history, the Moulin Rouge was rather controversial in its day. It was in West Las Vegas. Right. Do you have any memories about that? Just seeing it. I think it was on Bonanza. But I've never been there and never been in it. Okay. I understand that there was a lot of things run by the Mafia back in the early days of Las Vegas. Did you see any effects of that? It was very subtle. No, I did not. And I didn't tend to go in casinos except occasionally to have dinner. The schools were integrated in 1972. Did that affect your children? That's when they had bussing that went to North Las Vegas. Yeah, yeah. Not that I remember. So neither of your children were bussed to North Las Vegas? No, they were not. Okay, very good. Now, it suggests I ask you about your education and career paths. Where did you go to college? I went to college at Franklin and Marshall, which is a small liberal arts college in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. It was all-male when I was there. It’s since become co-ed. Then after that I went to the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and got my MD degree in 1962 there. Did my internship in York, Pennsylvania, Community Hospital. And then took two years of pediatric residency at Children's [Hospital] in Philadelphia. 6 Now, when you were in medical school, is that where you met your wife who is a nurse? Yes, but I didn't meet her in medical school. Oh. [Laughing] I had a summer job at a small tennis club in a place called Mount Gretna, Pennsylvania. I worked there the last year of high school, all through college and the first year of medical school. And finally the medical school dean said, Charles, you should do something medical. I agreed. Got a job in a small privately owned, surprisingly enough, hospital in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and that's where Ann worked and that's where I met her. I see. So you've been married quite a few years now. Quite a few years, yeah. I think it's 62. It will be 63 this coming year. That's wonderful. Either before you came to Las Vegas or in Las Vegas, did you have any mentors that you especially looked up to? Great question. Yeah. My father was one. I was an only child and I looked up to him a great deal. He was a man who was not terribly well educated because he couldn't afford it during the [Great] Depression. He had one semester of college and then had to quit. I looked up to a man from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, but the name of Harry Landis. In college I don't remember any particular mentors nor in medical school. But I again want to talk about Anthony Carter, who was in Las Vegas before I arrived here and who asked me to practice with him. He was the only pediatrician in Las Vegas who would see people on welfare and Medicaid and he went to UMC and most of the other pediatricians did not go to UMC at that time. It wasn't called UMC; it was called Southern Nevada Memorial Hospital. I see. Were there very many hospitals at that time? 7 Sunrise [Hospital] just opened a year or two before I came to town. There was a small hospital in downtown Las Vegas called Las Vegas Hospital. UMC was, of course, open. Now, you mentioned that your father was someone that you really looked up to. As your parents got older did they move out to Las Vegas to be with you? My father died when I was in college. My mother lived to a ripe old age of 93. And my wife and I brought her to Las Vegas when she was about 88 and she lived with us for five years until she died. Oh, that's nice. What are the amenities and reasons that you live in Ward I, Las Vegas? Great question. I guess the location, the location, the location. That's so important, isn't it? It's close to everything. If we want to go west to shop or to a restaurant or we go downtown, we're in the center of the town. So we've been very fortunate. This neighborhood has continued to be a very nice residential neighborhood in terms of amenities, in terms of trees and just the area that we have a nice big lot here and everything like that. Yes, you do. So we've been very fortunate to live here. Hopefully we'd like to continue to live here, as long as we're able. Yes, that's good. Is there a neighbor association here? A very loose one. [Laughing] It's voluntary and it does no police work. So you can leave your garage door up if you want and things like that? Yeah, yeah. And you could park a car in the street all the time and nobody would say anything. As you know probably, we have limited access to our neighborhood, but it's not gated. Were you happy when they closed off— 8 Very much so because we live just a block north of Oakey and people would come west on Oakey and then up through the neighborhood. And that was a blessing. We needed that. I'm sure it is very helpful to have that closed off. Yeah, it sure is. You can't even come in off of Rancho now, can you? Well, you're not supposed to. People do, but you're not supposed to. But mostly you have to get in off Charleston [Boulevard]. There's two entrances there. So that would really limit the people coming through the neighborhood. It sure does. I was jogging the other morning and ran into a gentleman walking up the street who had been released from UMC after a minor injury and he says, how do I get out of here? I said, where do you want to go? He says, I don't know; I just want to get out of here. So it's a wonderful place to live. Now, as I recall you are not fully retired. No. I am semi-retired. Since 1998 I have been a professor at the medical school [University of Nevada School of Medicine]. I really work for Reno since their medical school is the official medical school in Las Vegas at this time. I work for them and I help to run a clinic and the pediatric department here in Las Vegas. We have a pediatric residency here. And is that at UMC? No. Well, the pediatric residency is at UMC and also at Sunrise. The clinic that I work in and have worked in since 1998 is right next to Sunrise. So I really have nothing to do with UMC; I'm not on the staff there. I still am on the staff at Sunrise, although all my work is out-patient. Now, I understand that there's been a lot of talk about UNLV getting a medical school. What's your feeling on that? 9 The feeling is that we need another medical school; that we need to improve the quality of the physicians in Las Vegas and also to increase the quantity of the physicians in Las Vegas. So I'm all in favor. Our regent [Max] Doubrava has been in the forefront of that, and between that and UNLV there's great hope that there will be another medical school. I'm all for it. Yes, very good. I think many people here in Southern Nevada are all for it and think it's long overdue. It is. I agree. Now, I've asked you if questions that I had in mind, but I'd like to hear some of your memories about Las Vegas that I have not brought up, something that you might be interested in telling us about. I think where we came from that you went on a country road and there was a town every five miles. We moved to Las Vegas. First of all, I'm certain we were worried that the Indians were going to attack if we went out to Lake Mead. But the distances between towns is the thing that still I remember from being out here. And then the other thing that I remember is the climate. We came from a humid climate. I love the heat. My wife doesn't appreciate it as much as I do. But I love the heat and the dryness of Las Vegas. It's a wonderful place to live. One of the things that Las Vegas has been criticized for is demolishing buildings and not letting old buildings remain. Do you have any thoughts on that? I see nothing wrong with demolishing buildings which are no longer functional. Well, thank you very much for your comments. I appreciate them. Thank you for coming. [End of recorded interview] 10 Index B Barry Plan, 1 Bishop Gorman High School, 3 Boulevard Mall, 4 C Carter, Anthony, 2, 6 Charleston Boulevard, 8 Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, 2, 5 climate, 2, 9 Colorado, 4 D distances in the West, 9 doctor's draft, 1 Doubrava, Max, 9 E Ed W. Clark High School, 3 F First Presbyterian Church, 4 Franklin and Marshall College, 5 G gated, gates, 7 Glen Heather, 2 Great Depression, 6 H Hyde Park Middle School, 3 L Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 5, 6 Landis, Harry, 6 Las Vegas Hospital, 7 Lebanon, Pennsylvania, 6 M Medicaid, 6 Middletown, Pennsylvania, 1 Mount Gretna, Pennsylvania, 6 N Nellis Air Force Base, 1, 2 O Oakey Boulevard, 2, 7 P Pennsylvania, 1, 5, 6 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 3, 5 R Rancho Drive, 2, 8 Rex Bell Elementary School, 3 Ronzone's, 4 S Scotch 80s, 1 Scotch 80s owner association, 7 Sears, 4 Silver Lane, 1 Smiths Food King, 4 Snavely, Ann (wife), 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 Snavely, Elizabeth "Beth" Ann (daughter), 3 Snavely, Dorothy Beard (mother), 1, 7 Snavely, Stewart (father), 1, 6, 7 Southern Nevada Memorial Hospital, 6 Speciale, "Jasper", 4 Sunrise Hospital, 6, 8 U United States Air Force, 1, 2 United States Navy, 1 University Medical Center (UMC), 6, 7, 8 University of Nevada Las Vegas (UNLV), 8, 9 University of Nevada School of Medicine, 8 University of Pennsylvania, 3 University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, 5 W welfare, 6 Y York, Pennsylvania, Community Hospital, 5 11 This is Claytee White. It is January eighth, 2015, and I am with Ann Snavely in her home in Las Vegas. How are you doing today, Ann? I'm doing fine. Thank you. Thank you. Could you please spell your last name for me? Yes. It's S-N, like in Nancy, A-V, like in Victor, E-L-Y. Thank you so much. So I want to get started just by talking about where you grew up. I grew up in a very, very small town in Pennsylvania. And tell me about that town and about your family, your father and mother, what they did for a living; those kinds of things. My mother was a schoolteacher, third grade, and my father worked for Firestone [Tire and Rubber] Company. He had a district that he had to check up on and that was in the south central part of Pennsylvania and a small part of New Jersey. Any other brothers and sisters? No, I'm the only child. I actually had a twin sister, but she died right after birth. So what was that growing up in a small town about how long ago? Oh. [Laughing] Gee, a long time ago. I'm now in my seventies. So it's been some seventy years ago that I grew up in that town. Everybody knew everybody in the town. My mother was a teacher and, as I say, my father worked for Firestone Company. I had an uncle that taught in the high school in that area. My grandparents lived in that area. They were retired there. Did you go away to college? Oh, yes. I went to the University of Pennsylvania, School of Nursing,, in Philadelphia. And how did you get to Las Vegas? 12 Well, my husband came here through the [United States] Air Force. That's how we got to Las Vegas and we really liked it and that's why he decided to stay here. Which year did you come? Oh, gosh. Oh, I can't remember that. I'm not sure what year it was. Give me an idea of what was happening in Las Vegas. What did the city look like? What were some of your first impressions? It was much smaller, much smaller, of course. So what were some of your first impressions? Well, I really didn't live in the city. I lived out at Nellis Air Force Base because that's how we got out here, through the Air Force. So most of my first activities in the area were related to the activities on the base. Well, tell me about that because I don't think we've ever interviewed anyone whose family also lived in that area. Oh, okay. So tell me what that was like. Well, it was very, very nice. Everybody knew everybody because it was so small. We had our own church area there. Of course, you did most of your shopping at the commissary. Basically, our entire life really revolved around the activities on the base. So do you think this was in the '50s or '60s? Oh, I think it was in the '60s. So most of the activities were around the base. But did you go off the base for entertainment of any kind? Oh, yes, we'd come in town and we'd go out for dinner. We didn't do any gambling. 13 What are some of your favorite places for dining at that time? At that time, ooh. Downtown or on the Strip? It probably was just off of the [Las Vegas] Strip. It wasn't exactly on the Strip; it was off the Strip. I would say probably Charleston [Boulevard] area down there. The Macayo Vegas; that was one of the places where we would go to eat. And then, as I say, most of our other activities really involved the base and what we would do there on the base. So did you start working as a nurse? No, no. I had worked as a nurse when we first got married and then I had our children and, of course, I had stopped working then because I wanted to stay home with the children. We came out here and they, of course, went to school here. Where did your kids go to school? They went to West Charleston [Elementary School] [Ed. note: Now Howard Wasden Elementary School]. So you had moved into this area already. Yeah. How long did you stay in the Nellis Air Force area? Only two years. Oh, okay. And did most families do that, did they move away from the base? Most of them did, yes, or either they were transferred to another base. Some of them, of course, stayed on for a couple more years. But most of them were transferred to other areas. What made you and your husband decide to stay in Las Vegas? We loved the climate. Basically that was it because my husband liked to golf and I liked to golf. 14 We really enjoyed the schools. The kids went to West Charleston. Were you active in school activities? Not as much. I was more active in the church than in the school activities. And which church? First Presbyterian Church. Tell me about moving to this area. What was the first area you lived in after leaving the base? Glen Heather. Tell me about Glen Heather. I think Glen Heather is the houses that are supposed to be more like fairy tale houses. Well, I don't know what you mean by fairy tale. [Laughing] It's just across the street. So describe your first house to me. Okay. It was all on one floor. It consisted of a living room and then a family room and a dining room and then we had three bedrooms. That was it. And a laundry room area. So did you have a garage? Well, it was covered, but it wasn't enclosed. So like a carport. Yeah, right, exactly. Did all of the houses look alike at that point? Most of them, yeah. Yeah. They all had similar floor plans. So tell me about the neighborhood. Did people do activities together within the neighborhood? Sometimes they did. 15 Give me some examples of some of the things. Well, we had a barbeque usually in the summertime and all the neighbors on that street would all bring something, bring a dish, and the kids would play and the adults would talk and communicate. So it was a very...the neighborhood, everybody really got along very well. We didn't have any problems with any neighbors. Most of our activities were confined really to our street than the whole area. And the kids all played in the street probably. Well, yeah, or in the yards, in the area, yes. Do you remember any of your neighbors? That was a long time ago. Oh, gosh. Wait. Oh, I'm trying to think of his name. What did he do? He was...a public relations-type thing. Oh, my gosh, I can't think of the name. But that's okay. It'll come to you. And once we have this transcribed, you're going to have the opportunity to read it and you can insert that name for us. Surely. You were a golfer. Where did you play golf? Well, I started golf out at Nellis Air Force Base. And then when we came in town, I played over in...Ooh, I can't think of the name of it. Was it Municipal? It was a municipal golf course. Then later on we joined the Las Vegas Country Club and I played golf over there. What was downtown like because now you were probably doing shopping in downtown? Well...not really. 16 Did you do shopping when you— Around this area here we really did shopping. I'm trying to think of where all we shopped. Did you have a grocery store on that corner of Charleston and Rancho [Drive] at that point? I think there was a very small shopping center there. I did the grocery shopping there. Albertsons was the name of the store that I shopped at. And what about for buying clothes for you and the family? Well, I would use the commissary for a lot of the children's things. Then I would shop like at Fashion Show Mall. That's basically where I shopped. When the kids finished elementary school at West Charleston, where did they go? Then they went to Hyde Park [Junior High School]. Hyde Park was a junior high. Oh, okay. And then they went to [Ed W.] Clark High School. Actually, my son, he went to [Bishop] Gorman [High School]. But my daughter, she didn't want to go to Gorman. So she stayed at the regular high school. She said she didn't want to join the “Gucci crowd.” Oh, my goodness. Isn't that something? Wow, okay. So that was her take on it. Okay. So she did not. And what kind of occupations did your children go into? My son, he was in the science, really, chemistry. He passed away very early in life. I'm sorry to hear that. My daughter, she got a job at UMC and she's still working at UMC. Did she go into nursing like you? No, no. No, she didn't go into nursing. She works really as a secretary in the critical care unit. 17 Now, did you join any of the women's clubs? The only women's club I joined really was the one on base, which was for the Air Force women. Oh, tell me about that. Oh. Well, we'd meet once a month and we would do things for the kids on the base. Then, of course, I also was active in the church women's group and what they did for the Sunday school and that type of thing. So that's basically what we did. We'd have clothing drives and this type of thing. How long were you in Glen Heather? We lived in Glen Heather until my children went to Hyde Park Junior High. Then we moved over here because I wanted them to go to Hyde Park and they were not being zoned for Hyde Park over there at that time. It had just changed. And so we moved over here and then they went to Hyde Park. Now, describe your new neighborhood to me, the neighborhood that we're in now. It's a very, very quiet neighborhood. We didn't know that many people in the area, but everybody was very sociable in a nice sense. Nobody bothered you as far as what you had or anything like that. It was really...maybe we'd have one event where the whole neighborhood was invited. Describe one of those to me. What kinds of events? It would have been a barbeque and people brought something. We would usually have it at somebody's home and they would trade off as to where they would have it. So it worked out really nicely. It wasn't always at the same place. So do you still have those today? No, no, no. 18 So when did they stop? Many years ago it sort of stopped. Do you do anything today where the neighborhood gets together? No, no, no. And so now, what is the name of your neighborhood now? Well, I guess the Scotch 80s. Scotch 80s is what it's called. So do you have any couples that have dinners together or any kind of— Well, yeah. I take that back because we do have an event occasionally, once a year where everybody brings a dish and we just socialize. But it's not like it had been years ago when everybody came because just a few people and sometimes it's just on one street. It isn't always the whole neighborhood. So do you have any kind of clubs like a walking club, exercise club or anything else like that in the neighborhood? No, not that I'm aware of. Not in here, I don't think. So today what kind of activities do you participate in? My activities are mostly with the [First Presbyterian] church and with [Las Vegas] Assistance League. Oh, okay. Now, Assistance League...I'm thinking of Service League. Well, Assistance League...Are you aware of Junior League? Yes, yes. Okay. Well, Assistance League is very similar to that. We have a building where we meet and this kind of thing and have our fundraiser and this kind of thing. We always have a project of some sort going every year. We vote upon that in the beginning of the year, what we're going to 19 do. And then all our monies then go to that one project. So now, 2014 that's just ending, what was your project? Oh, gosh, I don't know. I can't really tell you because I'm not that involved anymore. Do you remember any of the projects that you found very exciting in some of the past years? Yes. We did puppeteering in the schools. Tell me about that. That was most interesting. We had a group that would...we had a basic set of...like a play-type thing. And we would go from one school to the other and we would give this performance. I was part of that and that was through Assistance League or Junior League. So now, when you say Assistance League, did the name change to Junior League at one point or did they become one? They became one at one time. [Ed. note: Junior League of Las Vegas and Assistance League of Las Vegas continue to be separate organizations.] So you're talking about the building downtown that's the Morelli house. Yes. Ah, okay. So were you involved when that house was moved to the downtown area? [Phone ringing] Excuse me just one minute. [Pause in recording] You were telling me about... I forgot. I forgot, also. Oh, that's not supposed to happen. So you were talking about—oh, yes. We were talking about the Morelli house. 20 Oh, yes. Well, I was involved with that because of being in Assistance League and Junior League. Basically, as I say, we had a program that we would do and go into the various schools and give this program. I found that most interesting because it involved us in various schools throughout the Las Vegas area, and so we went into all kinds of neighborhoods to give these programs. So it was most interesting. So were you involved at all when the house was moved from the country club to the downtown area? No, I was not. I just thought that was an amazing thing to do. Yeah, yeah. Would you ever—and this is just about where you've lived in Las Vegas since you've been here—would you ever live in any other communities? Do you and your husband ever talk about Green Valley or Summerlin? No, because we liked this area. First of all, it was close to where he was working. We liked our neighborhood and we knew some of the people in the neighborhood. As I say, we