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Mr. Perliter was asked for his recommendation MR. PERLITER - My answer is this— if this suit will delay this project a considerable length of time, then it is a matter of balance; the first is the proposal for $42,000.00. If you can continue, I would say to fight. In regard to the information I have furnished concerning borings, if it is wrong, and there is no proof it's wrong; the very fact of the point that the borings were in and I used those borings to determine my $658,000.00 estimate is proof, I should know how to figure on a unit price basis. If the project is going to be delayed an indefinite number of months, that should be balanced against $42,000.00 that is claimed. One other way to look at it, and that is thie—the cost to the City of $42,000.00 added to the $518,000.00 bid by Dixson totals $560,000.00. That is not in line with the average of all bids received— I still think the City is saving approximately $100,000.00 of what would be a legitimate price for the Sewer. As far as my intent was concerned, I did my best— I visited the project while the borings were going on to see what progress was being made. MR. JARRETT - Do you feel you have any financial obligation to the City for the mistakes you have made? MR. PERLITER - I still do not have any proof on my borings. MAYOR BAKER - In the matter of a lawsuit, would you decide, or is there a meeting ground where you would be willing to negotiate to pay a portion of the $42,000.00? At this point the question on the reliability of Mr. Perliter's choice of Contractor to perform the "borings" was raised. MR. PERLITER - I do know there are two large companies in California that do borings with their own force, and yet there has been cases where a contractor has challenged their borings. As this was explained, I got the information that the Contractor will always attack it if he is in a spot. However, the cost to the taxpayer is less than if we didn't have it. I do have the recommendation of what the man gave me transferred into the borings. Discussion was then held with City Engineer George Wade on the percentage of the project completed to date on Schedules A, B and C of the Sewer Improvement Program. MAYOR BAKER - I believe there should be some consideration made by Perliter for the reasons stated— just for a figure, in the neighborhood of $5,000.00, not to argue, but to get a basis to work on. MR. BUNKER - I would be satisfied, myself. MR. JARRETT - I don't think it's enough. MR. WHIPPLE - To get back to the point, if we should tell Cannon to stop negotiations, and we lose, what would be your reaction? MR. PERLITER - I advise not to negotiate on a basis of what is finished— to take it to Court. MR. WHIPPLE - Do you advise the City to go ahead and fight through the Court: MR. PERLITER - One point's got me worried, since one of the men who made the borings cannot be located— his name is Lawler. I could not foresee that this man was going to disappear. If that man cannot be located, it is, I understand, a vital factor toward the settlement. Speaking for myself, I went to a legitimate operator, George E. Miller— I did not chisel around, and he said he could do it. I had been working with him for two to two and a half years, so I contracted with him to do this work. MAYOR BAKER - This was poor judgment on your part. MR. BUNKER - It is evident that you refuse to answer whether we should fight or settle. MR. PERLITER - I will answer— if I was put up on a stand, my answer would be "yes", and if asked if my allotted 5-13-54