Meeting minutes for Consolidated Student Senate University of Nevada, Las Vegas, February 23, 1994

Iniversity of Nevada, Las Vegas itudent Government ° m m $ I f J 4 ^ ^ f f i c e of t h e S e n a t e P r e s i d e n t u ' AGENDA SENATE MEETING 24-10 MOYER STUDENT UNION ROOM 201 WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1994 7:00 p.m. fo If ll 01 Hi I. CALL TO ORDER II. ROLL CALL III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 24-08, 24-09 IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS V. BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS A. Senate Committee reports B. Executive Committee Reports C. Business and Management Reports VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Approval of an artist contract with Admire Entertainment in the amount of $4,000.00 plus travel and lodging in the amount of $700.00 for the topic "Are You A Racist" by Jane Elliott on Tuesday March 8, 1994. Funding to come out of the 2705 Entertainment and Programming account. $4,000.00 funding approved at senate meeting 24-08 contract is to be considered. B. Nominations/Election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Student Development. C. Nominations/Election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Liberal Arts. 1 . Rehan Anwar 2. John McFarlin D. Nominations/Election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Business and Economics. 1 . Brian Saliba 2. John Laxague 3 . Gina Dinoto E. Nominations/Election for the vacant senate seat for the college of Health Science. 1 . Allan Kandcer 2. Mike Volkert ALL SENATE SEAT NOMINATIONS OPEN F. Approval of Starla Mc Farling as the CSUN Senate Secretary. 4 5 0 5 SOUTH MARYLAND PARKWAY • LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 8 9 1 5 4 • ( 7 0 2 ) 7 3 9 - 3 4 7 7 • FAX ( 7 0 2 ) 5 9 7 - 4 6 0 6 ;•. • ts\ PAGE TWO '' , Senate Meeting 24-10 - • New Business Continued FEB re li I I FM 'M G. Approval of $5.50 per hour wage rate, and a six credit fee waver pro rated based upon appointment by the senate for the Senate Secretary. Funding to come out of the 2702 general account. H. Approval of Senator Thelma Johannssan as the CSUN Elections Board assistant director. I. Approval of Zenzee Rios as a member of the CSUN Judicial Council. J. Approval of organization funding in the amount of $100.00 for the UNLV Anthropological Society. Funding to come out of the 2704 Organizations account. K. Approval or organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Sigma Alpha Epsilon. Funding to come out of the 2704 Organizations Board account. L. Approval of organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Lambda Chi Alpha. Funding to come out of the 2704 Organizations Board account. M. Approval of organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for the Sports Officials. Funding to come out of the 2704 organizations Board account. N. Approval of organizations funding in the amount of $200.00 for the Chinese Student Association. Funding to come out of the 2704 Organizations Board account. O. Approval of organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Zeta Tau Alpha. Funding to come out of the 2704 Organizations Board account. P. Introduction of proposed changes to the CSUN Constitution regarding senate seat allocation, and recognition as it pertains to Article VI. section Three in the CSUN Constitution Q. Introduction/Approval of the CSUN Senate rules for the Twenty Fourth Session of the CSUN Senate. R. Introduction of Senate Bill 24-01 regarding senate approval of all CSUN Student Government travel. VII. OPEN DISCUSSION VIII. ADJOURNMENT \ ^Tao^COV'-'RHHEXT ores. PAGE THREE omVCHSHf OfSEVADA Senate Meeting 24-10 Posting Requirements ^ |r [j -)1 PH "»H Posted in accordance with the Nevada Open Meeting Law NRS 241. in or at the following UNLV Campus Locations. Beam Hall Business/Economics Building Second Floor White Hall First Floor Moyer Student Union First Floor FDH Humanities First Floor Thomas Beam Engineering First Floor All Senate Agendas Written By Senate President Bud Benneman MSU 160 office 177 University of Nevada, Las Vegas Student Government MINUTES SENATE MEETING 24-10 MOYER STUDENT UNION ROOM 201 WEDNESDAY) FEBRUARY 23, 1994 HmZ3 II32 WW SENATE PRESIDENT BUD BENNEMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:09 P.M. II, ( ROLL CALL PRESENT ABSENT ALLISON FOX (EXCUSED) BLOCK GORDON (EXCUSED) BOIXO MCMILLIN (EXCUSED) CAMPBELL POPICK (UN-EXCUSED) CHELLINO ELLIOTT HADDOCK JOHANNSSON MARTIN PIDA POBST SCHWARTZ VODRAZKA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES No action was taken on the approval of minutes 24-08, 24-09. IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS Student Body President Joel Kostman mentioned no one attended his Entertainment and Programming meeting. He announced that the upcoming events for this committee will be on the next agenda and the contracts would be out after the meeting. Kostman stated that he was waiting for the fliers for Jane Elliott and the Thunder Hockey team, which is why they haven't been posted yet. He encouraged everyone to mention these upcoming events as well as Career Day when they promote the elections in front of class. Vice President Jay Jay Held could not make the meeting due to car difficulties. Senate President Pro Tempore John Pida stated that he and Vice President Held were planning a banquet for the end of the year. He said he would get back with more details, but if anyone had any ideas or wanted to help with arrangements they could contact him or Held. CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS • UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, 4505 SOUTH MARYLAND PARKWAY • LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 89154-2009 • (702) 895-3477 • FAX (702) 895-4606 PAGE TWO SENATE MINUTES 24-10 ANNOUNCEMENTS (cont.) Senate President Bud Benneman announced that he wasJ(, , feeling sick and needed to take some m^^-iinelJ passed the gavel to Senate President Pro Tempore John Pida. Senator Boixo, the Liaison for the Rebel Yell Advisory Board, announced that she had the financial reports from the Rebel Yell. She passed them out, and noted she could answer any questions that may arise. She stated the Alumni Association gave a proposal to the newspaper for $5000.00 this semester and next semester. This would be for a two full page ad (per semester), a quarter page ad every week for five weeks, and for articles for the Alumnus of the Year, and the events of the Alumni. The Alumni Association also wanted to underwrite the paper, but that could not get approved. Student Body President Joel Kostman, referring to the $10,000 the Student Alumni Association is giving, asked Senator Boixo what the Student Government gets in return for the $50,000 a year given to the Rebel Yell. He mentioned that the Student Government only gets the OSI page, compared to all the pages and advertisement the Alumni Association. Kostman asked where Boixo felt the money the Alumni Association came from. Boixo replied by saying they came from the Alumni. Kostman disagreed and stated the money came from student fees as well. Kostman also referred to "the old double dip" of student fees and he referred back to "the Aids quilt," which obviously was a repeat (in Kostman's eyes) of what the Rebel Yell was doing. Senator Boixo expressed her disapproval of the questions Kostman was bringing up. She agreed "student fees were student fees," but felt the root of the problem was between Student Government and the Rebel Yell. She noted the paper was going through enough, and she hoped in the future the Rebel Yell would not have to deal with Student Government. Kostman was upset by this, he told Senator Boixo that if she was more involved and understood the workings of the Rebel Yell she would realize what Student Government has done for the Rebel Yell and her feelings would change. Senator Boixo referred to the "hell Kostman has put the Rebel Yell through," and Kostman demanded to hear the accusations Boixo started. Senator President V BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS A Senate Committee Reports PAGE THREE SENATE MINUTES 24-10 CO? _ , ; Oilhft, BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (cont. ) STUyDhEiVKEja cGi/Tr/ ;ip ?^N'E-VNATD A6f 0f, Pro Tempore Pida gaveled the cross debate, but the cross debate did not end immedi|jjt^|^. j|P|£d|jj ^c^lained the debate had to cease and/or be taken to a separate room. Chair of Rules Committee, Senator Schwartz, stated he had rules from the committee going around. He also noted that due to the break down of the copy machine the copies weren't in the senator's boxes. He also explained the rules were messy because they were from his original copy. Senator Pobst asked if the copy machine was working. She wanted to go over the rules thoroughly before the vote took place. Director Marshall made copies for the senators. Chair of the Constitution Revision Committee, Senator Martin, apologized for not having copies for everyone before hand. He also stated that he did not know where the funding requests were. Martin explained that he felt unprepared because he was unable to hold meetings successfully. He passed out the copy of the changes made to the Constitution and noted the changes were circled. B. Executive Committee Reports Assistant director of the Elections Board, Senator Johannsson, reported that they were having problems with fliers being torn down. She also mentioned she was pleased with the conduct of the candidates. Senator Vodrazka noted that there were fliers posted over director's agendas on the engineering board. Senator Martin asked if there was a rule on posting fliers over advertisement. Senator Johannsson said she saw the fliers, but she said there were no rules for advertisement. She also noted there shouldn't be a problem if the ad is expired. Senate President Pro Tempore Pida, asked about the fliers that got approved for Chris Meyers and he also asked who would break a tie should there be one during the elections. Senator Johannsson briefly spoke on the fliers approved for Chris Meyers and said the Student Body Vice President, Jay Jay Held would break a tie should there be one. Senator Pobst asked if there was a campaign to look for an Entertainment and Programming director. Student Body President, and Entertainment and Programming director, Joel Kostman, said it was to late to campaign for an Entertainment and Programming director. PAGE FOUR SENATE MINUTES 24-10 C0HS( , ; ^ H BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (cont.) GTlSDEN; GOVfRNHEHT OFOS. Ui-UVEfefH': OF NEVADA i »-j v£CAS Organizations Board Director, Ed Marshall, stated he was planning a blood drive ^994. He noted he wouldn't be needing funds because everyone would be volunteering their time. He asked everyone to promote the blood drive, and he also mentioned that he was working on having incentives for the students to give blood. He wanted this blood drive to be more successful than those in the past. He announced the next Organizations Board meeting would be held on March 3, at 5:00 P.M. (the blood drive meeting would be at 4:00 P.M.). He also briefly mentioned that in future organizations may need to pay insurance to use rooms in the MSU building. The university wants to charge money because they believe it is risk. He then mentioned that there was a mis-understanding that was due to the receptionists' failure to give messages to those who wanted to speak to him. He encouraged everyone to see to it that the receptionists are doing their job. He welcomed senators to attend his meetings at any time. He also stated that if anyone had any questions on funding to ask him. He mentioned he put together a packet to help make funding requests more clear and specific. Senator Pobst asked if Ed Marshall brought copies of the funding requests. Marshall stated he didn't have copies and that it wasn't his job to bring them. Senate President Pro Tempore Pida asked if copies were needed, and Senator Pobst said yes. Senator Vodrazka told Director Marshall that he would inform him on how his blood drive went. Senator Boixo asked why there were two blood drives scheduled so close together. Director Marshall said he spoke to the blood drive representative and she wanted to conduct blood drives every month. He also said this problem will never happen again. Senator Vodrazka said he was having a blood drive because the engineer majors were too lazy to walk to other blood drive stations. Senator Elliott asked on the Rebel basketball tickets. Director Marshall stated an application would have to be filled out and sent to the Thomas and Mack along with $30.00. He said the $30.00 covered the women's as well as the men's basketball games. He said the contact person was Phil Reed. Director of Student Services Ted Greenhalgh, said he didn't know what he was going to do about the shuttle service. He did mention that to help aid the problem of the drivers' not doing their job, there will be time clocks installed at every station the buses are supposed to stop. He asked everyone PAGE FIVE SENATE MINUTES 24-10 BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (cont.) ° uV c to promote Career Day which ..isogod^g^tttj held on March 2, 1 994. He noted that-! Aci m'igilt' need help on Tuesday for the set up. Greenhalgh stated the debate for the candidates will be held tomorrow (February 24) at the Pida Plaza at 11:00 A.M. Senator Campbell mentioned that Pat Smith, Nevada Student Affairs Director, wanted to tell everyone to promote the debate. Senator Pobst asked if Career Day was next Wednesday. Director Greenhalgh said yes. Senator Martin stated Career Day is one of the best services offered to students. He said it was a great opportunity for students to be heard by companies. Director Greenhalgh said Career Day was going to be held from 9:00 A.M. to 2:30 P.M. C. Business and Management Reports The interim KUNV director, Susan Scott-Weiss, passed out programs and said the next program will be out on March 20. She showed the t-shirts that are going to be sold for $15.00. She also mentioned that for those who donate $52.00 for the upcoming fund raising marathon, they will receive a bumper sticker, a membership card, and a window shade. She said the marathon would start Friday at 6:00 P.M. to Sunday, March 6. She announced that if anyone wanted to help they would need people to assist with the phones. Scott-Weiss noted the radio station received their CPB funding. She said it was a step lower ($2906.00). She said the station would have to have the other employee by May 1, 1994. Senator Campbell asked when the marathon started. Director Scott-Weiss said the marathon started on Friday, and lasted until Sunday, March 6, 1994. Senator Pobst asked why the station was receiving money for a lesser step. Director Scott-Weiss said it was due to not having enough employees, but that the money would be enough to purchase the major necessities. She also said the grant lasted from September to October and they would have to have the new director by May 1, 1994. Senator Pobst asked if the funding would increase when the station got the extra person. Director Scott-Weiss said the increase wouldn't show up until next year. Senate President Pro Tempore gave the Senate President the gavel NEW BUSINESS Mas 2 3 II3 2 w w A. Motion to approve an artist contract with Admire Entertainment in the amount of $4000.00 plus travel and lodging in the amount of $700.00 for Jane Elliott on Tuesday, March 8, 1994, was made by Senator Allison, and second by Senator Block. Motion carried 12-0-0. B. There was no action on the election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Student Development. C. There was no action on the election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Liberal Arts. Senator Pobst asked if the seats were still being advertised as being open. Senate President Benneman said the senate seats were still open. D. There was no action on the election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Business and Economics. E. There was no action on the election for the vacant senate seat for the College of Health Science. Motion to close elections by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Martin. Senator Pobst was against closing the elections because there was advertising still going on for the open senate seats. Senator Schwartz said advertising has been going on long enough and he stressed that there were no new applicants. Senator Chellino said not to close the elections if there was going to be an ad in the newspaper. Senator Martin stressed the importance of getting the seats filled. He said the senate needed these people to insure their constituents were getting represented properly. Senator Johannsson emphasized that she was the only senator for the College of Health Science, and she needed help. She was in favor of the elections being closed. Senator Vodrazka asked if the nominees were at the meeting. They were not at the meeting. Senator Vodrazka asked why should PAGE SEVEN SENATE MINUTES 24-10 NEW BUSINESS (cont.) the elections be closed i ;ren1t at the meeting to defend vote. Senator Martin made the f : the elections were closed there couldn't be action until the following week. Senator Boixo stated that there was no reason not to keep the elections open. She also stated that if the elections were closed that would be false advertisement. Senator Elliott asked Senate President Benneman if there was a way to call the nominees. Benneman said he thought the nominees were going to show up, but he would be sure to contact the nominees for the meeting next week. Senator Pobst said there may be additional qualified people if the elections are left open and advertisement is continued. Senator Martin, referring to Bylaw 4, stated that even if the elections were closed that the senator couldn't act until next week. Senate President Benneman stated that he and Senator Schwartz interpret the bylaw differently. Senator Elliott asked if the elections were closed next week, would the senate have to wait until the following week to vote. He also mentioned there may be a conflict due to Spring Break. Senate President Benneman read Bylaw 4 to the senate and explained his interpretation of it. Motion to close the elections failed 4-8-0, Senators Schwartz, Johannsson, Martin, and Campbell in favor. F. Motion to approve Starla McFarling a CSUN Senate Secretary was made by Senator Martin, second by Senator Pobst. Motion carried 13-0-0. Senator Allison left on personal privilege. G. Motion to approve $5.50 per hour wage rate, and a six credit fee waiver pro rated based upon appointment by the Senate for the Senate Secretary was made by Senator Johannsson, second by Senator Block. Motion carried 12-0-0. H. Motion to approve Thelma Johannsson as the CSUN Elections Board assistant director macje. by Senator Campbell, second ^en^tlaS: f-iBosxo. Senator Pobst asked Senator Johannsson what she had been working on with Vice President Held (in reference to the Elections Board), and why she wanted to be an assistant director. Senator Johannsson said she wanted to help because Vice President Held asked for her help. She also said that she had been helping with meetings, making sure certain items were covered, making sure the fliers followed the rules, etc. Senator Pobst asked Senator Johannsson if she felt she had the time for the new position, and asked if the position was going to conflict with her schedule. Senator Johannsson said she did feel she had the time to do the job. Senator Pobst asked Senator Johannsson if she was running for a position in the elections. Senator Johannsson said no. Senator Boixo said Senator Johannsson has shown integrity and her ability to do the job. Senator Campbell said, as a member of the elections board, she felt Senator Johannsson was very helpful and good for the position. Senator Martin asked if one could be a senator and an assistant director during the same term. Senate President Benneman said one could serve as a senator and an assistant director (without pay). Motion carried 11-0-1, Senator Johannsson abstaining, and Senator Allison,who had returned in the midst of the motion, was unable to vote. Motion to approve Zenzee Rios as a member of the CSUN Judicial Council was made by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Elliott. Senator Schwartz yielded the floor to Zenzee Rios. Miss Rios said she wanted the position, she said she read the constitution, and she had been involved with Student Government for the past two years. Senator Pobst asked Miss Rios if she was willing to stay for the whole term. Miss Rios said she would be able to stay the full term. Senator Johannsson asked Miss Rios if she would be able to stay objective. Miss Rios said yes. Senate President Benneman said Bylaw 4 would have to be waived due to the fact that that was the first time that item had appeared before the senate. Motion to waive Bylaw 4 was, macje by Senator Schwartz, second by Senatorfij58]2uis<j>Ji32 j^je^tor Pobst said she didn't agree with waiving bylaws. She said bylaws were made for a reason, even if certain issues had to be postponed. Senator Martin first asked if the Judicial Court would make quorum with Zenzee Rios as a member. He then added that usually he is against waiving bylaws, but there was a case pending and he thought Miss Rios would be effective if she were approved. Senator Vodrazka motioned to amend the approval of Zenzee Rios to 8:40 P.M. Senator Pobst asked if the appointment of Zenzee Rios would give the Judicial Court quorum. Senate President Benneman said yes. The motion to amend the approval of Zenzee Rios was second by Senator Johannsson. Motion carried 13-0-0. Motion to waive Bylaw 4 carried 12-0-1, Senator Pobst abstaining. Motion to approve Zenzee Rios as a member of the CSUN Judicial Council carried 13-0-0. Motion to approve of organization funding in the amount of $100.00 for the UNLV Anthropological Society was made by Senator Boixo, second by Senator Vodrazka. Senator Martin asked that if anyone had the copy with the original time stamp to please return it to him. Motion carried 13-0-0. Motion to approve organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Sigma Alpha Epsilon was made by Senator Pobst, second by Senator Chellino. Senator Martin asked if the funding request was from the Greek leadership as a whole or just SAE. Senator Schwartz said it was just SAE. Motion carried 12-0-1, Senator Allison abstaining. Motion to approve organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Lambda Chi Alpha was made by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Chellino. PAGE TEN c o n s o u b a t e d s t u d e n t s S7U0ENT GOVERNMENT OfCS. u n i v e r s i t y Of nevada Senator Elliott asked if the funding request had come before the senate bte.fcMe.|| Martin said it had, but it w^s not'approved because the Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity was on probation. Senator Boixo asked why the fraternity was on probation. Senator Martin said they were on probation because the fraternity missed too many meetings. Senator Johannsson asked if they could get funds after being on probation. Senate President Benneman called a short recess due to technical difficulties. The recess was called back to order at 8:30 P.M. The wrong funding requests were passed out for item L. Senator Vodrazka yielded the floor to Chris Ling, the president of Lambda Chi Alpha. He said the funding request was going to help the fraternity have a fund raiser that would enable them to continue their normal philanthropic events in the fall. The fund raiser was going to entail two 30 feet rocking chairs and two people to rock in them from noon April 13 to noon April 15. In the meantime there will be pledges made. Senate President Benneman asked if the senate wanted to postpone the approval until the correct funding requests were produced. Senator Johannsson asked if the funding request had gone through Way and Means. Senator Martin said yes. Motion carried 13-0-0. Motion to approve of organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for the Sports Officials was made by Senator Boixo, second by Senator Johannsson. Senator Elliott asked if the funding request was up for approval before. Senator Martin said it had not been up for approval before. Senator Vodrazka asked if it had passed the Organizations Board. Senator Martin said yes. Motion carried 12-0-1, Senator Haddock abstaining. N. Motion to approve of organization funding in the amount of $200.00 for the Chinese Student Association was made by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Pobst. SENATE MINUTES 24-10 NEW BUSINESS (cont.) PAGE ELEVEN SENATE MINUTES 24-10 COHSO; ' . NEW BUSINESS (cont.) SlUDUEHfiiVt rti- : ; Motion carried 13-0-0. FRNMtHT.OFCS. teZ3 II32 w "34 O. Motion to approve organization funding in the amount of $500.00 for Zeta Tau Alpha was made by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Pobst. Senator Martin said this funding request was the one he was supposed to have received on three different occasions but never did. He also said they were not time stamped but they had gone through the Organizations Board. Motion carried 6-0-7, Senators Chellino, Schwartz, Haddock, Boixo, Martin, Elliott, Pobst abstaining. P. Motion to discuss proposed changes to the CSUN Constitution regarding senate seat allocation, and recognition as it pertains to Article VI. section III. in the CSUN Constitution was made by Senator Boixo, second by Senator Campbell. Senate President Benneman asked for paper work from the Constitution Revision Committee. Senator Martin gave him the paper work. Senator Pobst asked for a copy. Senator Martin said he disagreed with the Article. He said the programs were no different from any other college and that the university saw the programs independent also. He said he was in favor of amending the article. Senator Johannsson had a question on the wording; she felt the word schools should have been added to aid in clarity. Senator Pobst stated that she was told that the different studies programs were different from the schools of communications studies. Senator Elliott asked how many colleges were in the school of communication. Senator Martin said there four different colleges. Senator Boixo said the schools should be clumped together because they have a smaller percentage of students. Senator Vodrazka said the independent studies programs shouldn't be clumped together due to that future programs may be added, which might cause the same issue to come up. Senator Johannsson said the word schools should be added so it can more applicable. Senator Martin asked where should the word schools be placed. Senator Johannsson told him where. Senator Elliott asked if the item was approved, when the seats would be added. Senator Martin told Senator Elliott the steps that would have to be taken c PAGE TWELVE SENATE MINUTES 24-10 C0NSO^U'^VWtt* NEW BUSINESS (cont. ) STUOEftT SO^rVmemt OFC* UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA ' before the seats would actually be available. Senator Martin said he agreed v|4fejSe4 a£pftt 'QJ Johannsson, schools should be added. Senator' Elliott asked how the senate seats were decided. Senate President Benneman explained. Senator Pobst said she felt one senator could represent these students. She suggested postponing the item to the next meeting to enable everyone to research the issue and to get better wording. Senator Haddock motioned to refer the item to the Constitution Revision Committee. Senator Allison second the motion. Senator Campbell agreed with the motion. Motion to refer the item back to the Constitution Revision Committee carried 13-0-0. Q. Motion to approve the introduction/approval of the CSUN Senate rules for the Twenty Fourth Session of the CSUN Senate was made by Senator Schwartz, second by Senator Block. Senator Schwartz motioned to yield the floor. He read the rules to the senators. Senator Boixo stated the rules were a waste of paper and way out of hand. She referred to several rules that she did not agree with. She concluded by saying the rules were repulsive. Senator Martin noted that he spent at least two hours in the CSUN office on a regular basis. He said he didn't feel that needed to be a rule. He also noted the he didn't feel the rules should be approved. Senator Vodrazka stated that engineers don't go to MSU. He said that the engineering building had a student organizations office where the students know they can get in touch with him. He said there would be no reason for him to spend two hours in the MSU office when his constituents are looking for him in the engineering building. He concluded by saying that he would not punch a time clock if he was not going to get paid. Senator Campbell stated she understood everyone's anger on spending two hours in the office, but she also said it should be a moral or ethics issue. She said that those people in the student government office on a regular basis shouldn't be only those that are getting paid. She noted it was the senator's duty and their constituents right to be able to contact the senators instead of leaving messages that don't,get rq|urned for days. Senator Schwarj^j 2^tat|e§2 Me^'ienators were going to have to live by the rules and if they did not like the rules they could amend them and get rid of them. He also mentioned that the rules were submitted to be typed, they were not , that was not his fault. He continued by stating the rules were brought up by committee members, not just himself. Referring to the two hour requirement, Senator Schwartz noted the time could be made shorter, but he felt senators needed to be in the office on some type of regular basis. He concluded by stating several senators never show up at the office, and if they can't find the time then they shouldn't be a senator. Senator Pobst suggested that Senator Schwartz take the rules back, take suggestions from other senators, and make the rules legible. Senator Vodrazka, trying to make himself clear, stated that it would be unfair to make his constituents walk to the student government office. He said there could be a rule for senators to pick the agendas at a certain time, but not to spend two hours in the office when their constituents are looking for them in their building. Senator Block noted that the annex could be used. Senator Johannsson asked that the rules be referred back to Senator Schwartz and the Rules Committee, and that the senators contact them and tell them what they agree and disagree with. Motion to refer back to the committee was made by Senator Martin, second by Senator Allison. Senator Pobst asked that the new rules be typed and put in the senator's boxes. Senator Schwartz asked the senators to get in touch with him. Motion carried 11-0-2, Senator Schwartz and Senator Chellino abstaining. Senate President Benneman introduced the Senate Bill 24-01 to the senate. President Kostman noted there was changes to be made. Senate President agreed. Senator Allison motioned to refer the bill to the Bylaws Committee. Senator Block second the motion. PAGE FOURTEEN SENATE MINUTES 24-10 NEW BUSINESS (cont.) The motion carried 13-0-0 Ita 23 K t f W * VII OPEN DISCUSSION Senator Chellino had no comments. Senator Schwartz told Senator Vodrazka he wasn't referring to him with two hour minimum rule. He said he understood Senator Vodrazka's situation. Senator Schwartz stated he welcomed any suggestions from the senators in regards to the rules. He noted they would have to live by them. He also stated that he hoped everyone would attend the debate tomorrow. Senator Johannsson thanked everyone for approving her to be the assistant Elections Board Director. She asked everyone to talk to their constituents about the debate and elections. Senator Johannsson stated she felt the cross debate held valid points and questions, but was out of line. Senator Elliott asked that everyone help look for someone to fill the vacant seat for the College of Student Development. Senator Haddock stated he was frustrated by the interruptions caused by senators going in and out of the meeting. He noted the senators didn't know what was being discussed, and the Personal Privilege needed to be controlled. He concluded by stating he didn't know the rule, but the movement was very distracting. Senator Vodrazka announced that the Engineering College would be conducting tours tomorrow. Senator Boixo apologized for the cross debate. She referred to the two hour rule as maybe an issue of time management. She congratulated Zenzee Rios fo