University of Nevada, Las Vegas law school planning: schedule, committee notes, correspondence, and reports

UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS V E G A S ^ ''^ ^ Las Vegas, Nevada 89154

Schedule for Professor Millard Ruud, for November 12, 1973

8:15 a.m. - 9:15 a.m. -

12:00 noon - 2:00 p.m. -

2:30 p.m. - 3:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. -

9:00 a.m. 12:00 noon

2:00 p.m. 2:30 p.m.

3:00 p.m. 4:00 p.m. 4:30 p.m.

Breakfast with Ralph Roske, Flamingo Hotel

Meeting with full Law School Advisory Board
Gold Room, SS-112

Lunch

Meeting with Dr. Donald Baepler,

Acting President • HU-747 . •

Meeting with head librarian, Hal Erickson
Library

Meeting with Dr. Wilbur Stevens, Arts S Letters
SS-102

Meeting with Dean Hardbeck, Business ^ Economics

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AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

November 5, 1973

CITIZENS AD HOG LAW SCHOOL COMMITTEE BY

JANICE S. GOULD

August 1971 Party, my home. Contact with Assemblyman, Jaclc Schofield re: Why no law school in Nevada?

Results! Do something about itI

Formed! Citizens Ad Hoc Law School for UNLV Pres.! Jack Schofield

Secy & Pres.Pro Temi Jan Gould
Set up Committee! Goals, methods, approach

Contacted Ralph Roske, Ph.D. Rei Any previous UNLV Law School research

Contacted Roman Zorn, Pres. UNLV, re! intent & purpose

January 1972 Formed 1 Citizens Ad Hoc Committee for a Law School in Nevada.

Pres.! Jan Gould Secy.! Ralph Roske

Mailed! inquiry forms to all Nevada High School Counselors Rei Number of students by grade level who indicate interest in a future legal career.

Mailed 1 Letters of inquiry to Law Schools on West section of U.S. rei number of Law Students enrolled from UNLV &/or UNR as compared to past history.
Asked for reflection as to cause for drop in numbers.

Called major per centage of practicing Las Vegas attorneys (299) to determine feelings on subject & linA up support and opposition.

Contacted several Judges & County Bar Assoc, Pres., Harry Claiborne.

August 1972 Set up rest of membership of Citizens Comm for UNLV,

My Dutys!

Handled Publicity
Unify UNLV Student & Admin, with Citizens Comm. Hold monthly meetings - organize and notify
Gather feasibility information - what is available

what is needed
Gather need information - Lack of Acceptance in out- of

State Law Schools.
- Local demand of ed, opportunity.

Jan Gould
Jack Schofield, Ass, Ralph Roske, Ph.D. Joe Foley, Atty.

Kathy Slocum, Clark Co. Law Librarian

Dan Hussey, Law Grad/Santini Dave Harrington\ UNLV pre- Mike Wheat law students

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January 1973

LEGISLATURE
Made contacts to propose Bill

ASSEMBLY! Jack Schofield.D Zel Lowman, R

SENATE: John Foley

Actions! 1) Set up Joint Committee Hearing in Las Vegas Calls

Publicity Attendance 80+

2) Letters & calls to legislators & State gov't officers for support.

3) Lobbying in Carson City Jan Gould

Dan Hussey
Neil Galatz, Atty. Kathy Slocum

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ResumS of Employment, Qualifications Education, Activities & Family

Employment
1. Stock Brokers License - NASD 2. Real Estate License - Sales 3. Legal Secretary

Medical Secretary 5. Receptionist

0. Teacher - Secondary Ed,
7. Kelly Secretarial Service - Misc. 8. Beauty Consultant
9. Sales
10. Governess & Child care
11. Debate & Speech writing

Education - B.A. Degree
1. Simpson College, Indianola, Iowa

Maytag Honor Scholarship
2. University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa. Bachelor of Arts degree.

Majort political Science with associated studies in
Secondary Education. Pre-law enrollment. Minorsi Business, Psychology & Russian Language. Activities included membership in Young Republicans, Women's Recreation Assoc, Fencing & Alpha Xi Delta Social Sorority.

Nevada Citizen Activities
1. Service Club - La Sertoma
2. University of Iowa Alumnae - Chrmn.
3. Alpha Xi Delta Sorority Alumnae - Pres.

Panhellenic 5. GardenClub

6. P.E.G. International Woman's Organization Charter Chapter President

Secy - Recording

Committees
7. Law School for Nevada Citizens Ad Hoc Committee - Secy & Organizer 8. Law School for UNLV Citizens Ad Hoc Committee - Pres & Organizer

9. Politics
Central Committee

Precinct Chrmn Area Chrmn Women's Club Youth Club

Lobbiest

State & County Convention Delegate State Credential Committee

Registrar of Voters - Deputy
10. American Association of University Women

Branch Secretary
Topic Chairman - Constitution of Nevada Study State Legislative Chairman

11. Church Member

Teacher - High School level Various organizations

Choir
Other ^ Wife & Mother (son)

Husband - Dwight E. Gould Stock Broker

Father - Gilbert R. Caldwell Attorney

Blyth Eastman-Dillon Newton, Iowa

UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS Office Of

Vice President for Academic Affairs

TO: Roman J. Zorn FROM: Donald H. Baepler

Approval
Signature
Comment
For your information

REMARKS:

Date: 10/21/69

^Review
Note and see me Note & return to me Need not return

I appreciate having a chance to read this and would like to see future editions as you receive them. There seems to be a lot going on in this area.

October 21, 1969

TO: Roman J. Zorn, President
FROM: Donald H. Baepler, Vice President for Academic Affairs

Pertaining to the attached correspondence which will definitely influence our future involvement in law programs, I can only suggest that if at all possible we should select two or three representatives from UNLV to s i t on th is coimiittee and repre­ sent our interests. I can't understand why the Chancellor did not make such reconsnendations, but if we are approached by the Nevada State Bar Association for suggestions, I am sure we can offer several excellent candidates to help them with their job. I will have some candidates in mind should the situation arise that we are asked to supply names.

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RE: Summer Session Law Workshop

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NiVADA SOvTHCRN JLIKIVWSITY

January 22, 1968

I have been in conference with Mr. Ivan Polk regarding the non- credit Workshop in Law to be offered by Dr. Hetter and Mr. Polk this summer. I feel it would be to our advantage to offer this course. Mr. Polk and Dr. Hetter have re-written the title and description in accordance with your memo of December 19, 1967.

The revision shows this as a non-credit Wrokshop comparable to a 2-unit course offered in Summer Session I, June 10, 196? to June 21, 1967, to freshmen law students and other students

interested in the study of law. The title and description are as fo11ows:

TITLE: An Introduction to the Study of Law

DESCRIPTION: A general orientation to law school and the commonly used methods of studying law, how to

use the law library and how to find the law.

It will introduce the student to legal termin­ ology in the basic areas of law, such as prop­ erty, contracts and torts; and familiarize him with legal reasoning, law school examinations and note taking, case briefing, recognition of legal issues, synthesis of legal doctrines and classification.

I would like your reaction to these changes.

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NEVADA SOUTHEKM UNIVERSITY Las Vegas, Nevada

INTKR-OFPICE MEMO

DEAN'S OFFICE

DEC1-51967

MiVADA SOUTHtRiU DATE: DeceHNfVilBinr 1967

The attached memo from Ivan Polk indicates plans that he and Dr. Hetter have for a non-credit offering this summer.

I would like your approval of the offering of a non-credit course in Summer Session as called out in his memo.

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CC: Hubert Johnson

INTER-OPPICE MEMO

TO: Dwight A. Marshall ^ DATE: December 12, 1967 PROM: Ivan R. Polk

In reference to our telephone conversation, here is the course title and description for the non-credit two week summer session institute which Dr. Hetter and I propose to give to Preshmen Law Students.

"Bridging The Gap: Prom College to Law School",

A general orientation to law school and the commonly used methods of studying law.

How to use the law library and how to find the law.

An introduction to legal terminology in the basic areas of law, such as property, contracts, and torts.

Pamiliarization with legal reasoning, law school examinations and note taking, case briefing, recognition of legal issues, synthesis of legal doctrines, classification.

The course seeks to give the student an introduction to the study of law before he gets to law school so that he will not be overwhelmed by the new language and atmosphere and can immediately direct himself towards studying law and not to acclimatizing himself.

We would appreciate your editing and revising our effort.

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TO: Dr. Donald Moyer, President

EE: Pinal Report on Lav Progran (1967-68) (See attacfated)

Mr.Hotter'8reportandDr.Soske'sconmentsarc attacked. This is a helpful and pr<»ii8lng report.

I suggest that this taatter be passed on to our successors with a strong reconaaendatim for con­ tinuation of the plans. Additionally, I hope that

they. Dr. Ro8)ce and others, can iaplencnt at least sooe of the suggesticms herein.

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I ;think he has a good Idea concerning listing thn law. courses' ' separately la Some part of the catalog. Or at least a restime which could be found In oa© section. I would like to susijcst that this be Considered before the nest catalog :i<»s to .press.

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MEMORANDUM
To: Ralph J. Roske From: F. L. Hotter

Re: Final Report on Law Program (1967-68)

SCHOOL OF SOCIAL SCIENCE May 15, 1968

The following report is based on and refers to the prior report of February 19, 1968 (copy attached). Paragraphs bear the same numbers and remarks are to be considered supplemental,

1. Courses Taught. Course addition (Political Science): International Law. Course should be noted (History): Constitutional History, American and English.

a. No action taken. Should be done in September (before the catalog goes to press).

b. As a result of letters which 1 sent out (about 15), two law school representatives came to this campus. Dean Christopher from New Mexico and Professor Dorsey from Loyola (Los Angeles). Many of the other schools indicated interest and their replies have been filed with Dean Roske.

Dr. Roske has travelled to Arizona State Law School and has established satisfactory contact there. Dean Sinclitico, of San Diego Law School, visited the Business School early in the year.

It is recommended that all these contacts be retained and broadened. My personal impression is that Professor Dorsey of Loyola is our best contact. That school has definitely forged ahead in the last few years. It is interested in individual candidates and not in computerized admissions.

c. No action taken. 2. Advising.

a. The purpose of the English minor is twofold, i.e., to aid in both writing and reading competence, as well as to broaden general cultural background.

The purpose of the Zoology-anatomy subminor is also two­ fold, i.e., 1) to have the student study that area of the physical sciences which most closely integrates with and relates to social science problems, and 2) to give the study a sound knowledge of human anatomy for personal injury work.

Spanish is suggested as a language due to the large number of Spanish-speaking clients in the Southwest.

b. No action taken.

Ralph J. Roske
c. No action taken.

d. No action taken.

May 15, 1968

3. Internship. Direct immediate interest has been expressed by the Federal Probation Office. Contact: Mr. James Pierce. Results with the Public Defender have been outstanding. Our contacts with that office should be continued and expanded.

A new problem has come up as a result of the desire of students to work in the program over the summer. It is suggested that a system be devised to permit such study with credit being given the following term.

This program must be conducted on a university-wide basis and should not, as some suggest, be limited to this School and/or this department.

4. Summer Institute. No change.

5. Idea of a Legal Technician Program. No change.

6. Law School. The problem of the law books in the University Library and the disposition (discard) of duplicates has come up repeatedly. It is my contention that none of these items should be disposed of until the total collection has been properly evaluated by a trained law librarin. There is no one on this campus known to me who is qualified to make these judgments. There are books that are worthless, as well as those of extreme value. I have personally seen items that have value to a law school on
the "25<: sale shelf." I would point out a statement made by Mr. L. A. Wilson, Research Clerk of the U.S. District Court, who said, in commenting on a case then being tried, "For this case we must use the old editions, since the applicable law is that of the date of the events." In many ways, law books and law libraries are unique, in that they must contain both current and dated material. This point has not been appreciated by the
NSU Library staff.

Judge Mendoza informs me that the County Law Library has hired a law librarian to properly organize its collection. She reports for duty about June 1.

Suggestion: Have this woman make a complete anaW;rsio of our holdings. Alternate suggestion: request Mr. L. A. Wilson to Tnake a survey. He has the finest operating law library in the area.

7. Conclusions. No change.

8. AdditionalItem. Mr.JamesSantini,PublicDefender,would like to teach a regular course at the University. I would suggest that he would have many valuable uses.

cc: President Moyer Dean Crawford

Dr. White
Mr. Marshall
Mr. Lapitan
Dr. Johns
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REPORT ON LAW PROGRAM - FALL TERM 1967-68 COPY School of Social Science, Nevada Southern University

1. Courses Taught. There has been a good reaction to both the Constitu­ tional and the Administrative law courses. The students in these courses are
at least as good as upper division students I taught at Middlebury College and better than those at the University of Rhode Island. The quality of these people is known neither to law schools nor the local community.

There is a great gap between law-type courses taught in Social Science, Education, Business and the G&T Institute. Students must dig and hunt to find courses, if they want law.

Suggestions: a. A printing in the catalog of all law courses taught anyx^here in this University.

b. A serious public relations program to find spots in graduate and law schools for our good students.

c. Encouragement of inter-school and inter-departmental study on a well-defined basis.

2• Advising. The law advising has been limited this year to making ap­ propriate conciliatory and vague comments to Freshmen and aiding Seniors to get into law schools. The first effort is largely worthless. Advising Freshmen on a pre-law program is largely a waste of time. The second effort has been very successful. By contacting various law schools in this area, I have been unable to interest them in our students, overcoming in part our "poor cousin" status as a University without a law school (and hence unable to reciprocate favors). Of the approximately 40 letters sent out, good replies and interest have come in

from over 15. In several cases, we have been able to place students because of these efforts. Additionally, law schools who have only barely heard of NSU are now aware of it. I am very pleased that this idea, which was admittedly a "shot in thedark,'bore such excellent fruit.

Suggestions: a. Creation of a core pre-law program in both business and social sciences. My suggestions for social

science are the following:
(1) Any social science major, (2) English minor, (3) Zoology-Anatomy subminor (circa 12 hours), and (4) Spanish for a language.

b. Listing all law courses in the catalog, including those offered by the G&T Institute.

c. Providing secretarial help for the advisor. We missed appearances on this campus due to a 20-day delay in sending out of urgent letters to law school deans. Such a loss to our students is inexcusable when one considers the quantity of routine work that is t3rped and printed daily. Some of my best efforts were frustrated as a result of this lack of priority, which was no fault of the secretary, but rather indicates a definite need for separately assigned secretarial personnel.

d. Coordination should be achieved between Business and Social Science. Our students were not invited when a dean came here to talk to "pre-law" students at the School of Business.

3. Internship. The legal internship program has been set up and is operat­ ing with a varying total of approximately two students at each of the following offices: district attorney, public defender, district court. The contact person­ nel officers at each office are: Mr. Bilbray (District Attorney), Mr. Santini (Public Defender) and Judge Mendoza (District Court). Any qualified student from

any department of this School, as well as from the School of Business, may be admitted to the program. He works at the respective office for a total of 60, or 180 hours per term, receiving therefore one, two or three hours credit for Political Science 497. The responsible officer coordinates the grade with me and

a grade is entered.

Suggestions: a. This program be given a specific course designation

for the internship program.
b. This program continue to extend its coverage to both

schools and all departments thereof, rather than limit­ ing itself to the Political Science Department, as has

been suggested.
c. The administrator of the program be given credit for

one three-hour course and at least 15 hours/week of secretarial assistance.

4. Summer Institute. The General & Technical Institute has set up a two- week, non-credit series of courses for pre-law students, primarily those from this

University.

Suggestion: This could be made an annual affair, perhaps with G&TI credit, and must be widely publicized in neighboring states.

5. Idea of a Legal Technician Program. The Malone Plan calls for a program similar to those proposed in medicine, permitting the education of a person to the level of a good technician, but not to the level of a professional.

Suggestion: This should be seriously studied for this campus. It might include a legal secretarial training program. Note that literate legal secretaries are in great demand everywhere. It seems to me that a legal secretarial program could be started under G&TI, possibly expanding into the legal

technician program later.

6. Law School. Efforts were largely concerned with the consultant and his report. My opinion of his visit and report was that he was both ill-informed and lacking in knowledge. He failed to see we do not have California money. Explora- tions were made through A.B.A. and various law schools to deteraine how they had set up their schools. Several possibilities exist, including (1) the immediate

establishment of a full-blown school, costing at least $1,000,000, (2) establishment of a night school, and (3) the "sponsoring" of a proprietary school.

7. Conclusions. Key problems center around parochialism and the need for a University-wide program, the need for secretarial assistance and the devotion of

time to the programs by a coordinator. The program of the law school is delicate but can, I think, be solved as indicated in Section 6 above. Although I am personally very interested in the whole project, I would not want to continue administering it without the relief mentioned.

NEVADA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY

MEMORANDUM

SCHOOL OT SOCIAL SCIENCE Office

April 15, ^4^1 ? 1968 MIVASA SOUTHSRN

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All Faculty
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Visit to Nevada Southern University - Chairman, Admissions Committee, Loyola University School of Law

Professor William Dorsey, Chairman of Admissions Committee, Law, Loyola University of Los Angeles, will be on campus to prospective law students on April 22, 1968- He will also be to meet with and discuss law programs with anyone who might

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Professor Dorsey will speak at 3:00 p.m. in SS-112 on
April 22 and will be available for individual consultation throughout the day in Carrel 326 of the Library. Appointments are to be made with

Mrs. Jane Myers, Social Science Secretary, SS-121, Ext. 348. Although priority will be given to seniors and juniors, all prospective law students are invited to meet with Professor Dorsey.

I would like to point out that such an interview with an official of a first-class law school is a rare opportunity. I suggest very strongly that anyone interested should avail himself of the opportunity at this time. The invitation applies to any student of any school in this University.

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On MarOh 19 I vieitod the canpue of Arizona State University at Tefflpe in order to obtain B»re information about the poeeibility of starting a la»7 school on this cmnpus. I dtose Arisona State for ay visit because there are only three state-eupported law schools started in the last few years in the western half of the United.States. There is onn at Lubbock, Texas» but I thought the Texas experience might be too alien for us to derive much from their experience. Amther school has been started at the University of California at Davis, but because of Califomia*8 relative opulence I felt it was not as useful a t-xMlel for future action ps tha Institution at Ariaons State. I was accorded every courtesy by the staff and administration of the Ctollege of Law 4md found that its experiences were most enlighteaing.

To begin with, there Is one Board of Regents Over all higher education in Arizona and therefore the Arlzcma State experience was relevant to our own in this regard. Also, there has long beep a law school at the University of Arizona at Tucson. The position of the university and the city of Tucson within the state is w r y cooparable of that to the city of Reno ax^ the University of Nevada. That is, that Tucson was formerly the center of population and its csi^s of the University of Arizona at Tucson was the old established one. It is true that as early as the ISSO's there was a normal school at Tempo, but it was just that, a teacher training institution until post'dforld War II. About the mld»AO*s, Fhoenix began to grow trsnoendously and Tenpa, as a suburb, shar^ in the growth. As the cetiter of population, it was iMMisssary to transform the old teachex*'8 college at Tes^e into
a suusy-fsceted university.

At the present time, at Teax^e the Masters degree is given in many fields ami the Fh.D. degree is given In several. As a result, the university at Tmnpe is almost the equal in imabers to the Tucson university in graduate work and will probably pass it very shortly. The immediate catalyst for bringiii^ the lew school to Tempe was the fact that tha city of fhoenix and its population ganeratcd the demand.

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that a 1«? school was mora eapenslve than coo^arahle graduate work in
the social sciences and the hmuanitles. In oWer to establish the lew school, a dean and a lew librarian were selected emm and osm-half years before the achool began aeration in the fall of 1967. The dem acted
as a form of ccfnsultant, commuting between his position then at Horth* wmtem University and T«i^a. During this tinm, he drmr up the currlettlm forthefirsttwojiwsrsa^begantheselectionoffsoyilty.Thelew librarisn continued at his position and commuted to Tempe, and began assmbllng the law library and staff. The atate approprlatfwi sufficient money to purchase about 50,000 volsmiea for the law library and aj»thar

15-20,000 were donated by attomeya in Arizona. It was pointed out to
tm that you cannot dapend upon donations entirely to start a law school llhrsry, since the things donated are generally the most ccjssmon awi you may gat much di^llcstlon of volumes and not obtain seta of the most rata and needful hooks. Thsrafore, the practice at T4»^e waa to gat sufficient money from the State to start a core llbrRty, regardless of/the fsct that ,, the local Bar was ertrmmly cooperative In helping to eatmblish the school.

Imeidentally, the dean of the law sehocl was <fuite clever In creetlng an "imtant alumni." What he did was to form a law society of Arizona State and sell Initial memberahips at $250 a head, with annual dues of $25. The fhoaBlx Bar came forward in great nuHbers. In addition, several estates of prcsalnent attorneys also purchased menberehips in their

memory.Aearemit,acontingency^ndoffairproportimwasraised toenablethedeantodothemanylittlethingsaboutthenewlawbuild­ ing and in thai law library that could mt have been provided by state money. In addition, he mis able to augmsnt his out-of-state travel budget mnsiderably. Also» he waa able to start a scholarship progrcwi at once with the first class whi*^ entered In th® fall of 1967.

The first year cf operation, 1967-8, saw 117 students admittl^ to tha Im school axid 114 of than survived Into the second semester. This was the result of a very careful selection policy. Faculty was

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In addition to the dean^ aaalstant dean, amd heiui librarian, the law school at the present tiae consists o£ six full-time faculty Sffiiabers. The policy at the school will be to ffl^loy alis^st entirely full-ttoe faculty members and to depend only incidentally, and for very

^otie specialties, upon the Bar of the Jhoenix area. The reason for this action is that the dean is convinced that part-time faculty members in large nittibers cannot help but hurt the program because of their out­ side interests.

To enter the Isw school, students ai^ selected i^on two bases - grade point average in undergraduate work and their score upon the law schoolaptitudetest,whichisaPrinceton-administeredtest. The formula provides that if you are high in either category, the offsetting lower score will be coapensated for. The law school, of course, has its own admission officer is a full-time faculty member and also teaches courses.

it may be well to mention at this point that a teaching Idad
at the law school is six units, or two preparstlona. All full-time faculty members teach the six units, but the dean, head librarian and admissions officer teach one. At the time the law school reaches full ? maturity in the fall of 1969, it is estimated that it will employ 18 full-time faculty members to teach a student body of about 350. The
staff consists of three established professors and three younger men,
two of whom are associate pTOfessors and one of whom is an assistant professor. The instructor rimge is not used in law school recruiting.

Hie average salary of a full-time professor la law runs s«jund $20,000, an associate professor around $15^000 and an assistant professor around $12,000. Asaresult,thefacultyismorehighlypricedthancomparable professorsinthehumanitiesandsocialsciences. However,thetendency, as noted by appropriate committees of the ^erican Bar Association, is that law school salaries have not risen quite as iaich as faculty salaries in other areas, hut the gap is somewhat closing.

A word about the library is in order. The head librarian at the law school does not report to the director of libraries, but instead reports to the law schpol dam. This is not only important for purposes of accreditation, but because it is necessary that the dean have close control over the budgets and holdings of the library in order that it may mesh satisfactorily with his emphasis in curriculum.

As to the curriculum of this law school, the first two years are quite standard and set with no eleetlves. In the third year, however, there are very few prerequisites and students are allowed to select ipeeialties, such as Indian law, legal aid work, and urban problems.
When the third year curriculum is activated, it is believed that there will he several Joint appointments with the departments of the university In psychology, sociology, political science and history, in order that these specialties, with special reference to the legal profession, may
be made available to the law school students. In addition, there will
be various small seminars on a variety of current legal problaais. Between tlw! second and third 3rear8 thare will be an opportunity for field esperi* ence in the summer. Students will be required to take positions in

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leaf offleas and with varLous public o££iel«l»i la order to gala practical ou*the*Jab <niparie&e« prior to graduation*

The very eKCellont law building, ^?hich haa been provided to • • houae the law aehool» contalni a large moot court. Hot only are nock trials conducted there boit. In order to enhance the prestige of the univaralty, the Arizona state Supreme Court has been Invited to ait \ for aoeie of its sessions in the noot courtroom, which Is of course , adequate for this purpose. This provides an opportunity for the
its^enta to sea the ArlsiRma Supreme Court in action. Other courts
may alao be Invitad in and it Is belie^ved that even the Federal Court
that sits in Phoenix stay sometime avail itself of tha splendid faclll* ties on the TeogNi csa^tts.

A word is elso In order at thia point, pethapa, about the accreditation problem faced by a new law school. Accreditation by the Association of Marican Law Si^ools is what is needed to have a remitsible in»d prestigious institution. This recoBmsndatlon by the AAL3 la gained
in two steps. About the time the Arizona State lafrischool cpcned, they ware visited hy a delegation fro® tha AALS which asiarlned Its llbrar/, physical facilities, curriculum, faculty, and admiscion policy. Having found these ar^stas to ba more than adequate, Aristma State was then put upon the approved list. The nemt step wilt c^e during tha third year
of operation, when an accrediting team will visit and study its eperatlosdl to date and, of course, will be able to obtain a better picture of the institution by ttiat time, since it will be in full deration with three eiaaaaui. There is every reason to bellave that before the first class
is actually graduated, Arizona State will be fully accredited by the AALS.

A Im# school will probably not be^«m inexpensive operation, although it is of course far less exponsive than a madlcal school. At tlw! praaent tiaia, the atate supports the Arizona State law aclKX»X at the rate of $500,000 for operating funds, with this smount Clliidilng to nearly one million dollars by the time all faculty members are hired and tlie library has attained a little more In the way of maturity.

TO summarise, I discovered that the Airlsona State Univeraity'^s College of Law at Tcim>e is a first-rate operation and one which will un-. doubtedly be accepted by the MLS with no difficulty. It was aa^'hacized by all concerned that the key to a successful law school is a dynamic and dedicated individual who is, if possible, also well-established profes­ sionally, as dean. Tha proper dmtn, plus the proper library facilities, are undoubtedly the keys to a law school. Physical facilities, while to soma extent is^ort&nt, arc secondary and, if necesaary, a law school could begin in tcmaporavy quarters, However, there is no blinking down

the fact that it is a more expensive operation than say giving a Ph.D. in history or English.

1 m enclosing copies of a "ile^rt of the Dean** and **Guidelittos" for now law schools from the AAL8 with this report, in order to indicate acoM of tha problems faced by a new law school.

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1. Dorsey indicates he can come here any Monday for a similar program.

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2. One student already accepted, on probable, two possible.

3. It is my personal opinion that the law school is above average in this area and that we will be fortunate to place students there. I feel that this initial relationship should be bboadened and developed as much as possible. Initially we should be very careful as to students sent

to this school.

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of the Dean were made by students and all costs were bom
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TO: All Faculty

FR: Ralph J. Roske, Director

RE: VISIT OF DEAN OF UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO SCHOOL OF LAW TO NEVADA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY

Dean Thomas Christopher of the School of Law of the University of New Mexico will be on campus to interview

prospective law students on March 21, 1968- He will also be available to meet with and discuss law programs with anyone who might want to engage in a law career.

Dean Christopher will speak at 3:00 p,m. in SS-116 on March 21 and will be available for individual consul­ tation throughout the day in Carrel 326 of the Library. Appointments are to be made with Mrs. Jane Myers, Social Science Secretary, SS-121, Ext. 348. Although priority will be given to seniors and juniors, all prospective law students are invited to meet with the dean.

I would like to point out that such an interview with the dean of a first-class law school is a very rare oppor­ tunity. I suggest very strongly that anyone interested should avail himself of the opportunity at this time. The invitation applies to any student of any school in this University.

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RE: Attached report on NSD Pre-law Program

I also wish to add some confidential remarks. Dr. Roske appropriately appointed Dr. Better to initiate planning for a Law School. Clearly, Dr. Better has taken his task very seriously and, according to Dr. Roske, has moved in several directions on his own (that is, without consulting with Dr. Roske or any of us). I do not think any harm has come from this. In fact, several good things are stated

in this report, which I have signed to indicate my interest in continuing and in actually implementing some of the sug­ gestions a t various phases of development. The la tte r should be worked out jointly between Dr. Better, Dr. Roske and, probably, Dr. lAiite and Mr. Polk. However, I am asking Dr. Roske to be certain that he personally involve himself

with all future details of the LawSchool planning. Yet, knowing Dr. Better and his approach to things (i.e., force­ ful and rapid), I suggest that this point about joint planning and total consultation with the other parties must be carefully spelled out to him by no less a person than the President of the University. Accordingly, I suggest that Dr. B etter's report be gratefully received by you,

but that you clearly instruct him to continue with a specific charge as to whom he must consult with on plan­ ning. (I think IX:. Better has been working primarily
with Mr. Polk on caapus and with several people off caucus.) Further, I suggest that it be made clear that there are no debts, obligations, or assumptions carried with his
(Ih:. Better's) assigrunent to initiate and continue plan­ ning in this arena. In other words, it m i^t be useful right at the start to state in writing to all of us that at the appropriate time, a faculty committee w ill help nomin­ ate, screen and select the Dean of the Law School through
a nation-wide search. (Of course, i t might be appropriate

to indicate that Nhen the planning load becomes excessive, some sort of release tine may be able to be worked out for those doing the planning.) At any rate, 1 think at least some of the above points must be clarified in writing to Dr. Hetter as soon as possible. Please understand that

my remarks are suggestions only. Naturally, the report is addressed to you and the matter is in your hands. I just wanted you to have the benefit of my thinking.

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Re: Report on NSU Pre-lew Progrem

IhavesignedDr.Better'ssuggestionsandsendthemon to you, but I do feel that I should add a uord or two of eomnent on my own. 16ich of what he suggests could be, and probably should be, iB^lesiented. However, particularly the Idea that x»e should fund a type of secretary for the person In chavge of the pre-law program himself, It seems to me to nsack of "eaplre building."

Therefore, although much of what he suggests has merit arA might
be iii5»lemented over the next several years, I feel that the proposal

as a whole needs careful study and only piecemeal Is^lcaaentatlon at this time.

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Ra: Saport on Lav Prograa • Hav^a Sootliam !7nlvarsity

A raport on ay aetivltias in the legal field for the past
texa is attacdiad. I feel that these cooaants aay ha of value to you
in planning for future growth in this field. Inamuch as these coaaents are based solely on the partial picture which I possess, I trust that

you will understand that

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fact that a great deal store aay be said on any I would be more than pleased to elucidate.

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REPORT ON LAW PROGRAM SCHOOL OF SOCIAL SCIENCE NEVADA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY FALL TERM 1967-68

1- Courses Taught

There has been a good reaction to both the Constitutional and the Administrative law courses. The students in these courses are at least as good as upper division students I taught at Middlebury College and better than those at the University of Rhode Island. The quality of these people is known neither to law schools nor the local community.

There is a great gap between law-type courses taught in Social Science, Education, Business and the G&T Institute. Students must dig and hunt to find courses, if they want law.

Suggestions:

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anywhere in this University.

A printing in the catalog of all law courses taught

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graduate and law schools for our good students.

A serious public relations program to find spots in

c. Encouragement of inter-school and inter-departmental study on a well-defined basis.

2. Advising

The law advising has been limited this year to making appropriate conciliatory and vague comments to Freshmen and aiding Seniors to get into law schools.

The first effort is largelyworthless, a pre-law program is largely a waste of time.

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The second effort has been very successful. By contacting various law schools in this area, I have been able to interest them in our students, overcoming in part our "poor cousin" status as a University without a law school (and hence unable to reciprocate favors). Of the approximately 40 letters sent out, good replies and interest have come in from over 15. In several cases, we have been able to place students because of these efforts. Additionally, law schools who have only barely heard of NSU are now aware of it. I am very pleased that this idea, which was admittedly a "shot in the dark," bore such excellent fruit.

Suggestions:

a. Creation of a core pre-law program in both business
and social sciences. My suggestions for social science are the following:

(1) Any social science major
(2) English minor
(3) Zoology-Anatomy subminor (circa 12 hours) (4) Spanish for a language

Listing all law courses in the catalog, including those offered by the G&T Institute.

c. Providing secretarial help for the advisor. Me missed appearances on this campus due to a 20-day delay in sending out of urgent letters to law school deans. Such a loss to our students is inexcusable when one consideres the quantity of routine work that is typed and printed daily. Some of my best efforts were frustrated as a result of this lack of priority, which was no fault of the secretary, but rather indicates a definite need for separately assigned secretarial personnel.

c. Coordination should be achieved between business and social science. Our students were not invited when a dean came here to talk to "pre-law" students at that school.

3. Internship

The legal internship program has been set up and is operating, with a varying total of approximately two students at each of the follow­ ing offices: district attorney, public defender, district court. The contact personnel officers at each office are: Mr. Bilbray (District Attorney), Mr. Santini (Public Defender) and Judge Mendoza (District Court.

Any qualified student from any department of this School, as well as from the School of Business, may be admitted to the program. He

\7orksat the respective office for a total of 60, 120,or 180 hours per term, receiving therefore one, two, or three hours credit for Political Science 497. The responsible officer coordinates the grade with me and a grade is entered.

Suggestions:

a. This program be given a specific course designation for the internship program.

2. This program continue to extend its coverage to both schools and all departments thereof, rather than limit­ ing itself to the Department of Political Science, as has been suggested.

3. The administrator of the program be given credit for one three-hour course and at least 15 hours/week of secretarial assistance.

4. Summer Institute

The General and Technical Institute has set up a two-week, non-credit series of courses for pre-law students, primarily those from this University.

Suggestion:

This could be made an annual affair, perhaps with G&TI credit. It must be widely publicized in neighboring states.

5. Idea of a Legal Technician Program

The Malone Plan calls for a program similar to those proposed in medicine, permitting the education of a person to the level of a good technician, but not to the level of a professional.

Suggestion:

This should be seriously studied for this campus. It might include a legal secretarial training program. Note that literate legal secretaries are in great demand everywhere. It seems to me that a legal secretarial program could be started under the G&TI this fall, possibly expanding into the legal technician program later.

6. Law School

Efforts were largely concerned with the consultant and his report. My opinion of his visit and report was that he was both ill- informed and lacking in knowledge. He failed to see that we do not have California money.

Explorations were made through A.B.A. and various law schools to determine how they had set up their schools. Several possibilities exist, including (1) the immediate establishment of a full-blown school, costing at least $1,000,000, (2) the establishment of a night school, and (3) the "sponsoring" of a proprietary school.

7. Conclusions

Key problems center around parochialism and the need for a University-wide program, the need for secretarial assistance and the devotion of time to the programs by a coordinator. The program of the law school is delicate but can, I think, be solved as indicated in

Section 6 above. Although I am personally very interested in the whole project, I would not vrant to continue administering it without the relief mentioned.

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