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CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS AGENDA SENATE MEETING #43 SESSION 13 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 4:00 P.M. MSU 203 I. Call to Order II. Roll Call III. Approval of Minutes #41 and #42 IV. Executive Board Announcements V. Executive Board Nominations A. Student Services Committee - Shana Baker B. Submission of Compensation - $150 per month for the Radio Board Chairman VI. Board, Committee and Director Reports A. Ad Hoc Committees 1. Constitutional Revision B. Elections Board C. Entertainment and Programming Board D. Judicial Council E. Nevada Student Affairs F. Organizations Board G. President's Committees 1. Intercollegiate Athletic Council H. Publications Board I. Radio Board J. Student Services Committee K. Other 1. Professional Programming Department Q. Appropriations Board VII. Old Business A. Nominations for Vacant Senate Seats 1. Academic Advisement 2. Education UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 SENATE MEETING #4 3 AGENDA PAGE 2 3. Arts and Letters B. Approval od $450.00 per month stipend for the President C. Approval of Workload Waiver - Schiavone VIII. New Business A. Discussion/Action on Dismissal of Executive Board Secretary - Shaffer B. Approval of Professional Programming Donation - $1500 to Debate Team - Mounts IX. Open Discussion X. Adjournment CONSOLIDATED STUDENTS MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 SESSION 13 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 4:00 P.M. MSU 20 3 I. Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 4:00 p.m. Members Absent Louie Schiavone - excused late David Mounts - excused late Nanda Briggs - unexcused Matt McGuire - unexcused Jim Eells - unexcused II. Roll Call Members in Attendance Stephanie Pettit Jay Lezcano Sari Bloom August Corrales John Pasquantino Robert Eglet Sindy Glasgow Virgil Jackson Murray Long Deanna Macaluso Jeff Chadwell Mark Doubrava III. Approval of Minutes #41 and #42 Senator Corrales moved to approve Minutes #41 and #42 as a whole, and Senator Pettit seconded. The motion passed with 11 in favor and 1 opposed(Long). IV. Executive Board Announcements A. Vice President Shaffer The first cabinet meeting will take place on Monday, September 19 at 2:30 p.m. in the CSUN offices. B. Senate President Pro Tempore Pasquantino CSUN with the Faculty Senate Bylaws Committee must write its interpretation in bylaw form of the American Associa-tion of University Professors' joint statement concerning students rights. The interpretation is due Friday, Sept-ember 16. Pasquantino apologized for his absence from the last senate meeting. UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA, LAS VEGAS/4505 MARYLAND PARKWAY/LAS VEGAS, NV 89154/(702) 739-3477 MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 2 C. Senate President Clay If there were no objections, an emergency item to approve a speaker, Captain Devere Baker, for Monday or Tuesday evening will be considered under new busi-ness. There were no objections from the senate floor. V. Executive Board Nominations A. Student Services Committee - Shana Baker Senator Bloom moved to approve Shana Baker as a member of the Student Services Committee, and Senator Jackson seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. B. Submission of Compensation - $150.00 per month for the Radio Board Chairman Senator Jackson moved to approve the submission of compensation of $150.00 per month for the Radio Board Chairman. Senator Long seconded the motion. Senator Eglet objected to the consideration of this item. Senator Jackson withdrew his motion and the second concurred. VI. Board, Committee and Director Reports A. Ad Hoc Committees 1. Constitutional Revision Catherine Clay read the minutes from the meeting held on September 09 and 12, 1983. The meeting was called to order at 1:00 p.m. The members present were August Corrales and Jeff Chadwell. The members absent were Bill Haldeman, Mark Shaffer and Lynn Best. The meeting was recessed until Monday, September 12, 1983 at 2:30 p.m. Clay called the meeting back to order at 2:32 p.m. on Monday, September 12, 1983. The members present were Jeff Chadwell and guest Clarence Lee. The members absent were Bill Haldeman, August Corrales, Mark Shaffer and Lynn Best. The meeting was recessed for 10 minutes to wait for Bill Haldeman. Clay called the meeting back to order at 2:43 p.m. The members present were Jeff Chad-well and Bill Haldeman. Clarence Lee was a guest. Mem-bers; absent were August Corrales, Mark Shaffer and Lynn Best. The meeting did not achieve quorum however the committee continued with a discussion. The members present did informally approve a list of 6 recommenda-tions to the senate. They are: 1. The committee is extending the deadline for report-ing to the senate will be the 15th of November. The vote to the students shall be the first and second of December and the presentation to the Board of Regents shall be on the eighth of December. 2. To have all Judicial Council members as ex-officio members. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 3 3. The committee shall consist of 8-12 members, four of whom must be senators and a chairman. 4. People suggested for membership: a. Bill Haldeman b. Karen Cohen c. Lorraine Alderman d. Jef Wild e. Jeff Chadwell f. August Corrales g. Sindy Glasgow h. Dr. Titus - advisor i. Dean Daniels - administrator j. Regent Karamanos - advisor k. Chris Beecroft - advisor Catherine Clay - chairman 5. The committee shall examine the entire Constitution, refine and improve it. 6. The committee shall set a permanent meeting time, to be chosen at the first meeting which is to fol-low adjournment of the 44th meeting of the senate. (It was suggested Sunday evenings.) Senator Eglet moved to approve the Constitutional Revisions committee minutes from the meeting held on September 09 and 12, and Senator Corrales seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. B. Elections Board Sari Bloom read the minutes from the meeting held on September 12 at 10:30 a.m. The members present were Tracy Beaton, Gus Varona, Karen Musselman, Sari Bloom and Mojgan Sobhani. The board approved Karen Mussel-man as vice chairman for the elections board. The board approved the 12 and 13 of October as the election dates. The board also approved tentative filing dates of September 19 to October 5, 19 83. The board tabled the assignment of a mandatory senate candidates meeting date and time. The board approved a security deposit of $50.00. The board tabled for one week the election rules revision, election forms revision, election policy revision because all members do not have a copy of cur-rent election rules. The board tabled for one week the planning of a mandatory candidates rally. The recommen-dation of new members of the board is to be decided by the executive board. The board approved the following polling hours and places: Moyer Student Union 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Flora Dungan Humanities 8:00 a.m. - 9:00 p.m. Tonopah Hall 8:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. James L. Dickinson Library 9:00 a.m. - ? MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 6 Education Building 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Frank and Estella Beam Hall 8:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. Senator Bloom moved to approve the minutes from the Elections Board meeting held on Monday, September 12 at 10:30 a.m. Senator Corrales seconded the motion. Vice President Shaffer, Senator Eglet and President Lee agreed that $50.00 security deposit should be set at a lower amount. Senator Corrales moved to amend to delete from the Election board minutes, item E of New Business. Senator Eglet seconded the amendment. The amendment passed with 11 in favor, 1 opposed(Long) and 0 abstain-ing. Senator Long spoke strongly against the approval of the elections board minutes. Senator Pettit asked if it would be appropriate to approve the minutes without the excused and unexcused absences being listed. Senate President Clay stated that the approval or dis-approval of the minutes is entirely up to the senate. Senator Bloom explained that this was Tracy Beaton's first meeting and first involvement in CSUN. Senate President Clay reminded everyone that CSUN is pressed for time and must approve filing dates in or-der for the elections to be held on schedule. Senator Eglet raised a point of order stating that the motion to approve the minutes is out of order because the meeting was held at 10:30 a.m. when the agenda was posted for 10:30 p.m. Senate President Clay stated that the chair would be willing to accept a motion to approve filing dates for the senate elections as an emergency item. C. Entertainment and Programming Board Senator Eglet asked what dollar amount had been approved for the first concert. He estimated $2400 or $2500 had been approved. President Lee commented that Roby may have gone over budget with this first concert. President Lee believed that it would cost $4100 to spon-sor this concert. Senator Eglet stated that if that information is correct then Entertainment and Programming will need $2000 in addition to what was budgeted for the concert originally. Eglet also stated that he feels that the Entertainment and Programming Board Chairman's actions should be regulated through the cabinet meetings or by the executive board members who is assigned to E & P. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 7 President Lee stated that he was told that CSUN stands to make $10 0 0 on this concert, but also stated that Chairman Turner said he would be present at today's meeting to answer questions. Moyer Student Union Director, Burt Teh, stated that the ballroom capacity is 9 32 people. Senator Long stated that at times Roby Turner has been taking on the duties and responsibilities for E & P himself and has not been dealing with the board as much as he could be. Appropriations Board Chairman Eckert stated that the budget for E & P was assigned enough cash to sponsor the traditional events such as homecoming and oktober-fest. Senators Schiavone and Mounts were present at 4:41 p.m. Senator Pettit asked whether the concert could be moved to a new place with more seating capacity such as Ham Hall or the P.E. Complex. President Lee stated that he had suggested Ham Hall and the P.E. Complex to Chairman Turner, but the chairman preferred to hold the event in the Student Union. Senator Long stated that the contract approved by the senate stated that the concert is to be held in the MSU ballroom. Senator Eglet cited parts of the contract from page 3 which, he did not consider as "standard." He stated parts in which the purchaser agrees to supply and pay for alcohol(Heineken, Molson, Jack Daniels), beverages (mineral water, orange juice, coffee, tea, milk), various meals(to include either fish or chicken salad, hot vege-tables, vegetarian meals, yogurt), deli trays and clean towels. Senator Eglet moved that President Lee take the contract to CSUN's lawyer Chris Beecroft to see if there is any way to get out of it. Senator Corrales seconded the motion. President Lee stated that if the contract has not been mailed then he will hold it. Senator Eglet requested that two items be placed on next Tuesday's: senate agenda (.September 20) , closred personnel session to discuss the Entertainment and Programming Board Chairman and Discussion/Action on the dismissal of the Entertainment and Programming Board Chairman. Senator Eglet asked whether President Lee read the contract before he signed it. President Lee replied that he did not read the contract before signing it, because the senate had already approved the contract. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 8 Senator Long stated that there is a senate opening on the Entertainment and Programming Board. He also stated that dismissal of the E&P chairman is not neces-sary and is a foolish item. Long stated that if the board were more active in the decision making, there would be a check on the chairman. Senator Jackson stated that the Fire Marshal Code for the state of Nevada has been violated by allowing too many people admission to the concert. If the contract has not been mailed then CSUN should attempt to stop it. If the contract has been mailed then CSUN has legally agreed to the contract. Senator Schiavone stated that if CSUN reneges on the contract it will have to pay half of the contract price. Senator Bloom moved the previous question, and Senator Jackson seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. The motion to have President Lee take the contract to CSUN's lawyer, Chris Beecroft, to see if there is any way to get out of it passed with all in favor. D. Judicial Council Justice Taylor was present to answer any questions re-garding the Judicial Council's: decision. There were none. E. Nevada Student Affairs There was no report. F. Organizations Board There was no report. G. President's Committees 1. Intercollegiate Athletic Council President Lee announced that there will be an IAC meeting held on Thursday, September 15 at 4:00 p.m. in Wright Hall's Gold Room. The members will be discussing the seating arrangement for students. Lee also announced that the songleaders are attempting to be recognized by the IAC so they may perform on the field. \ Senator Lezcano announced that Brad Rothermel is per-son who may authorize individuals to be on the field. Senator Eglet warned that CSUN should hear the argu-ments for and against allowing the songleaders on the field before making! a decision. Eglet is opposed to any CSUN public endorsement for or against the song-leaders until more information is available. H. Publications Board There was no report. I. Radio Board Senator Long announced that there was a meeting last MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 7 Wednesday, September 7 that he could not attend which did not achieve quorum. He stated that the agenda listed an item concerning who will take the general manager's responsibilities until a new manager is appointed. The meeting did.not achieve quorum. J. Student Services Committee Senator Corrales read the minutes from meeting #2, #3 and #4. Meeting #2 was called to order at 1:37 p.m. on August 11, 19 83 in room 20 2 of the Moyer Student Union. The members present were August Corrales, Sari Bloom, Sindy Glasgow, Kai Fischer, Nathaniel Foulkes, Karen Musselman, Richard Phillips and Gus Varona. Virgil Jackson was excused absent. Rusty Smith resigned his position on Student Services effective August 11, 19 83. The committee nominated Sindy Glasgow for vice chairman and closed nominations for that position. The committee approved Kai Fischer as Assistant Director of Shuttle Service, Virgil Jackson as Assistant Director of Day Care Center and Sari Bloom as Assistant Director of Free Services. The board approved a motion stating that all members not on a sub-committee shall be members on the committee of gene-rating revenue committee. Gus Varona was appointed to the Day Care Committee. The committee approved the hiring of notetakers from August 22 to 27 who will be paid $6.00 per hour. The committee also approved the cost of the lecture notes for $15.00 per class and $1.00 per day, per class. The meeting was recessed for 5 minutes and called back to order at 2:45 p.m. The committee approved a mo-tion to accept on contingent of MSU approval to move into space designated as reception area in CSUN for Student Ser-vices Committee. The committee also approve a motion to have the typewriters in the typing room serviced once a month. The committee approved a motion to discuss with Mary Dale Palsson, Director of Library, that the library take over the Typewriter Room. Item VI was tabled one week. The meeting was Adjourned at 3:45 p.m. Corrales read the minutes from the Student Services Com-mittee Meeting #3 held on August 18, 1983 at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. and recessed for 10 minutes. The meeting was called back to order at 7:15 p.m. The members present were August Corrales, Sari Bloom, Sindy Glasgow, Nathaniel Foulkes and Richard Phil-lips, Mark Shaffer was a guest. The members unexcused absent were Virgil Jackson, Karen Musselman and Gus Varona. Excused absent was Kai Fischer. Since quorum was not achieved the committee went into informal discussion. The meeting was adjourned at 8:12 p.m. Corrales read the minutes: from meeting #4 held on August 24, 19 83. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. and recessed for 10 minutes:. The meeting was called back to order at 7:15 p.m. The members' present were August Cor-rales, Sari Bloom, Nate Foulkes1, Sindy Glasgow, Karen Mussel- MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 08 man, Richard Phillips and Gus Varona. Members absent excused were Denyce Tuller and Virgil Jackson. The committee approved Sindy Glasgow as vice chairman. The committee approved a policy to have no users fee on the typewriters. The meeting was recessed at 8:31 and called back to order at 8:40 p.m. All members present at the beginning of the meeting were present. The committee approved a motion to have anti-theft de-vices placed on the typewriters. The committee approved adoption of the standing policy considering upkeep on the typewriter machines and amended it to read that the monitor must contact Student Services office in the event of a 30 mi-ute break. The committee tabled the adoption of their operating policy for one week. The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. Senator Pettit left the meeting at 5:06 p.m. Senator Eglet moved to approve the minutes from Student Services Meetings #2, #3 and #4 as a whole, and Senator Jackson seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. K. Other 1. Professional Programming Department David Mounts mentioned the item for approve a speaker for Monday or Tuesday. Vice President Shaffer moved to suspend the rules and move back into item.C., Entertainment and Programming Board Report. President Lee seconded, and the motion passed with all in favor. C. Entertainment and Programming Board Senator Eglet asked what amount was budgeted for this first concert. Chairman Turner stated that there was not a particular budget established for this concert ahead of time. Chairman Eckert stated that the budget for Entertain-ment and Programming board was approved as a whole, but amounts were not approved for the individual events. Senator Eglet stated that when the senate approved the contract at senate meeting #4 2, Chairman Turner referred to the contract as being "standard." Chairman Turner stated that the contract is standard. Senator Eglet stated that the contract was not stand-ard and the senate was misled. Senator Pasquantino stated that student funds: cannot be used to purchase alcohol. Senator Jackson asked whether Turner was: aware of the Fire Marshal Code. Chairman Turner stated that he was aware of that code. The event will be billed as a dance concert which will utilize the entire second floor of the Student Union. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 09 Turner stated when 9 50 people have been admitted to the concert, he will check to see if more people can be admitted. Senator Mounts stated that Chairman Turner should have had the insight to share his knowledge of "standard" concert contracts. It is the senate that is held responsible for the contract, not Chairman Turner. Vice President Shaffer asked whether the contract had been mailed. Chairman Turner stated that he had sent the contract by express mail. Senator Chadwell pointed out that CSUN is liable for anyone who records the group "Burning Sensations." Chairman Turner stated that CSUN would need to sell 850 tickets at $5 or $6 per person to break even. If it did not break even then CSUN would lose $500 or $600 which is the cost of a Friday afternoon event. Senator Lezcano asked whether the concert could be moved to Ham Hall. Chairman Turner stated that the cost of moving the event would amount to $1000.00 approximately. Senator Mounts disagreed and stated that it would only cost $350.00 for use of Ham Hall. Senator Pasquantino stated that Chairman Turner was in violation of his board's operating policy, because he had not approved the event with the E & P board. Turner explained that it was necessary to hurry in> ; order to have the concert at all. Turner stated that he explained the situation to the senate at last week's meeting(#42), and the senate approved his contracts. Senator Eglet stated that approving the contracts was a major mistake and that no contracts should be approved unless the senators receive a copy in their boxes. Senator Jackson moved the previous question, and Senator Corrales seconded. The motion passed with 10 in favor and 3 opposed(Long, Schiavone, Doubrava). Vice President Shaffer announced that he called federal express and was told that they could radio the pilot and tell him to stop'delivery of the contract. Federal Express office stated there was a 60% chance of stopping delivery at the other point. Chairman Turner objected to stopping delivery of the contract. Turner explained that in contracting groups if one does not act quickly, he/she will miss out. If CSUN stops the contract now, it will get no future bookings. Turner believes that this concert will be a success. MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 10 President Lee moved to approve the motion that CSUN attempt to stop the mailing of the contract. Senator Eglet seconded. Roby Turner stated that he sent the contract with first class postage instead of express mail, therfore no action was necessary on the motion. Senate President Clay recessed the meeting for 5 minutes at 5:55 p.m. The meeting was called back to order at 6:03 p.m. Second Roll Call Members in Attendance Jay Lezcano Sari Bloom August Corrales Louie Schiavone Robert Eglet Sindv Glasgow Virgil Jackson David Mounts Murray Long Jeff Chadwell Mark Doubrava VII. Old Business A. Nominations for Vacant Senate Seats 1. Academic Advisement The chair announced that Zellie Dow and Norm Johnson have been nominated and Karen Musselman has withdrawn. 2. Education Lisa Herman has withdrawn. 3. Arts and Letters Senator Eglet nominated Tom Ware. Senator Pasquantino nominated Bill Haldeman. Senator Eglet withdrew the nomination of Denyce Tuller. Senator Eglet moved to close nominations for the Arts and Letters Senate Seat, and Senator Bloom seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. B. Approval of $450.00 per month stipend for the Presi-dent Senate President Clay passed the gavel to Senate Presi-dent Pro Tempore John Pasquantino. Senator Glasgow moved to approve the submission of a $380 per month stipend for the President. Senator Doubrava seconded the motion. Senate President Clay spoke in favor of the motion, stating that the President has not established office hours and, in her opinion, has exhibited a lack of professionalism. The President, in Clay's opinion, has shown disregard for Members Absent Stephanie Pettit - excused John Pasquantino - late Nanda Briggs - unexcused Matt McGuire - unexcused Deanna Macaluso - late Jim Eells - unexcused MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 11 Robert's Rules of Order and the Nevada Open Meeting Law. Clay stated that the resolution recently passed stated additional reasons which support her opinion. Clay asked Senator Glasgow to repeat some of the state-ments she made during the past discussions regarding the President. She felt that it was President Lee's responsibility to read the contract before he signed it. Senate President Clay stated that she personally reads all minutes and paperwork before she signs. James Ohriner believes that a person's pay should not be used as a weapon. The stipend shouldbe set accord-ing to the position and not the person. Personality of the person holding the position should not be considered. If the person is not doing the job correctly, he/she should be reprimanded or eliminated. The person's pay should not be altered as a form of punishment. Senator Glasgow stated that President Lee's stipend was originally approved at $380.00 and amended at a later meeting to $450.00. The amendment was done in-correctly so it was corrected. The proposal is not a reduction in stipend. It is a submission of a $380.00 per month stipend. As a representative of the college of Business and Eco-nomics , Glasgow stated that she was pointing out. a huge waste within the organization as far as an "extremely high and even outrageous amount of money being paid to a member whose actions have only brought controversy and come very close to the total destruction of our organiza-tion." Glasgow quoted Lee as saying that "you(senate) have an evaluation, say in the middle of my term here and you can decide if I'm worth $4 55.00. Now at that time, that's when you make your cut. . ." Jim Ohriner stated that the comments made by Glasgow and Clay deal with the personality and not the position of the presidency. If a President is doing a bad job then he should be impeached. President Lee stated that everyone knows that the situation is personal. He also stated that he knows the seante does not care for him, and he does not particularly care for the senate. Lee has been receiving a $450.00 per month stipend would be a reduction, maybe not technically, but it would be a reduction. Lee stated "Do what you(senate) think is best." Senator Mounts moved the previous question, and President Lee seconded. The motion passed with 9 in favor and 4 opposed(Long. Glasgow, Corrales, Bloom). The motion to approve the submission of a $380.00 per month stipend for the President passed with 7 in favor, 4 opposed (Long,- Corrales, Glasgow, Bloom) and 1 abstain-ing (Lezcano). C. Approval of Workload Waiver - Schiavone MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 12 Senator Eglet moved to approve a workload waiver for Louie Schiavone. Vice President Shaffer seconded the motion which passed with all in favor. VIII. New Business A. Discussion/Action on Dismissal of Executive Board Secretary - Shaffer Vice President Shaffer withdrew this item. B. Approval of Professional Programming Donation - $1500 to Debate Team - Mounts Senator Mounts moved to approve the Professional Pro-gramming Donation of $1500 to the Debate Team. Senator Jackson seconded. Mounts stated that approval of these funds would entitle CSUN's name and logo to be used by the debate team and CSUN would be recognized as a sponsor. Senator Eglet stated that according to bylaw #15 this motion is illegal and he appealed to the chair to rule it out of order. The chair ruled the motion out of order. Senator Chadwell moved to set the CSUN Senate filing dates from September 19 through October 5, 19 8 3 with the security deposit to be set at $25.00 per candidate and election dates to be October 12 and 13, 1983. The motion was seconded by Senator Jackson. The motion passed with all in favor. Senator Mounts moved to approve that the senate direct the Professional Programming Department to authorize the lecture of Devere Baker for Mondayf September 19 or Tuesday, September 20 at 5:00 p.m. with an honorar-ium not to exceed the amount of $200, advertising costs not to exceed $100.00 and miscellaneous expenses not to exceed $10 0.00-to be held in the MSU ballroom. Senator Doubrava seconded the motion. Senate President Clay asked if this approval would involve a contract. Mounts stated that there would be a contract involved. Senator Eglet strongly objected to the approval of this lecture. The motion to object to the consideration of the main motion failed with 5 in favor, 5 opposed(Lezcano, Long, Mounts, Schiavone, Doubrava) and 2 abstaining. Senator Mounts withdrew his main motion and the second concurred. Senator Mounts moved to approve a lecture for Monday, September 19 or Tuesday, September 20 at 5:00 p.m. with costs for honararium not to exceed $200.00, costs for ad-vertising not to exceed $100.00 and miscellaneous costs not to exceed $100.00. Senator Corrales seconded the MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 13 Senator Eglet stated that it would be irresponsible for the senate to approve another contract which it has not seen. Senator Long pointed out that if KUNV allows one presi-dential candidate air time, it will have to allow every presidential candidate air time, also. Senator Corrales asked where the funds for the lecture would be taken. Senator Mounts stated that the funds for the lecture would be taken from the 912 account(Professional Programming Department). Vice President Shaffer spoke against the motion to approve a lecturer for a cost not to exceed $400.00. Shaffer stated that he felt the money could be better spent on programs other than lecturer Devere Baker who is "banking on love paving the way to the White House" and wants to establish a "People's Bank" and replace all present cur-rency withi"peoplebacks" instead of <tj:r£eribacks. Senator Macaluso moved the previous question, and Senator Bloom seconded. The motion passed with all in favor. The motion to approve a lecture with Devere Baker for September 19 or 20 at 5:00 p.m. with an honorarium not to exceed $200.00, advertising costs not to exceed $100.00 and miscellaneous costs not to exceed $100.00 failed with 2 in favor(Mounts, Lezcano), 11 opposed and 0 abstaining. Senator Bloom moved to suspend the rules and move to item C of New Business. Vice President Shaffer seconded and there being no objections, the chair moved into item C. C. Approval of CSUN Senate Election filing dates, election dates and security deposit Senator Bloom moved to reconsider the action taken on the approval of the motion to set filing for senate elections for September 19 through October 5, 1983 with security deposit to be set at $25.00 per candidate and election dates to be October 12 and 13, 19 83. The motion to reconsider was seconded by Senator Chadwell and passed with all in favor. Senator Bloom moved to set the filing dates for CSUN Senate Elections for September 19 through September 23, 19 8 3 with election dates of October 12 and 13 and a $25.00 security deposit per candidate. Senator Chadwell seconded the motion which passed with all in favor. Senator Eglet moved to adjourn, and Senator Jackson seconded. The motion failed with 6 in favor and 7 opposed. IX. Open Discussion Bruce Dyer agreed with Roby Turner by stating that the contract was: standard for the business. He also commented that KUNV has been receiving many phone calls about the concert and believes the it..will be a success. Dyer asked CSUN, particularly those present at the meeting today, to MINUTES SENATE MEETING #43 13 SEPTEMBER 19 8 3 PAGE 0 14 support Roby in his efforts. Senator Senator CEngalaewt ellle fts t.atthee-d. miene trinegf eraetn c6e: 46t op-.tmn.e „Y el,l .i.n . . Rebel article regarding bylaw #9 that the senate was not trying to give more power to itself. Chadwel1 added if the senate knew that parts of the bylaw were illegal, it would not have passed it. Senator Macaluso stated that if E & P is planning to sell 1500 tickets for a concert in a ballroom that holds approximately 9 00 people then it will be violating the Fire Marshall Code. Macaluso also commented that since E & P will have to sell approximately 800 tickets at the cost of $5 or $6 each to break even, she questioned whether the event would generate a substantial amount of revenue. Senate President Clay announced that there will be student leadership seminars held sponsored by MSU and CSUN. The approximate cost to CSUN would be $10.00 to cover the cost of printing. Clay encouraged everyone to attend. Senator Mounts stated that the opportunity to schedule Devere Baker as a speaker for Monday or Tuesday was made known to him over the weekend and that was why he was unprepared for the senate meeting today. Mounts felt it would be good for an eccentric type of lecturer to speak at UNLV. He also added that next time he would be more prepared when he has a proposal and wished that Devere Baker's lecture would have been approved. Senator Bloom left the meeting at 6:53 p.m. Larry Hamilton, MSU Board Chairman, recommended that CSUN sup