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Transcript of interview with Sally L. Jackson by Krista Jenkins, March 2, 1980






On March 2, 1980, collector Krista Jenkins interviewed assistant manager, Sally L. Jackson, (born March 28th, 1932 in Culver City, California) in her home in Las Vegas, Nevada. The interview covers the social and environmental changes that have occurred in Las Vegas. Sally also discusses the hospitality industry and offers details on the local hotels, casinos, and nightclubs in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson i An Interview with Sally Jackson An Oral History Conducted by Krista Jenkins Ralph Roske Oral History Project on Early Las Vegas Special Collections and Archives Oral History Research Center University Libraries University of Nevada, Las Vegas UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson ii © Ralph Roske Oral History Project on Early Las Vegas University of Nevada, Las Vegas, 2019 UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson iii The Oral History Research Center (OHRC) was formally established by the Board of Regents of the University of Nevada System in September 2003 as an entity of the UNLV University Libraries’ Special Collections Division. The OHRC conducts oral interviews with individuals who are selected for their ability to provide first-hand observations on a variety of historical topics in Las Vegas and Southern Nevada. The OHRC is also home to legacy oral history interviews conducted prior to its establishment including many conducted by UNLV History Professor Ralph Roske and his students. This legacy interview transcript received minimal editing, such as the elimination of fragments, false starts, and repetitions in order to enhance the reader's understanding of the material. All measures have been taken to preserve the style and language of the narrator. The interviewee/narrator was not involved in the editing process. UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson iv Abstract On March 2, 1980, collector Krista Jenkins interviewed assistant manager, Sally L. Jackson, (born March 28th, 1932 in Culver City, California) in her home in Las Vegas, Nevada. The interview covers the social and environmental changes that have occurred in Las Vegas. Sally also discusses the hospitality industry and offers details on the local hotels, casinos, and nightclubs in Las Vegas, Nevada. UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 1 The informant is Sally L. Jackson. The date is March 2nd, 1980, at nine o’clock. The place is 618 Essex Drive West, Las Vegas, Nevada. The collector is Kristie Jenkins. 4209 Fairfax Circle, Number 9, Las Vegas, Nevada. The project is Local History Project Eleven: Oral Interview, Life of a Las Vegas Old-Timer. Okay. Sally. What year were you born? Nineteen thirty-two. And the date? March the 28th in Culver City, California. But jeepers. You’re asking a lot of personal questions, young lady! (Laughs) Okay. We’ll move on. What year did you come to Las Vegas? In 1943. In fact it was—I had my sixteenth birthday in Las Vegas, which is March 28th. Okay. What is your—give me some general idea of your background? Oh. I really have a great deal of Indian heritage. My family basically was in the everglades of Florida. Then they were chased out of Florida—Florida, I should say, and into Oklahoma. And at this time, my grandfather whose name was Lightfoot had married a lady from Ireland, born of the county of Cork. And this is where the heritage of the Irish and the Indian came in. Then as his son married, then we’ve got a little bit of French in there. Where he married a woman that was French and Irish. Then as time progressed the youngest son moved to California, as the children were born and declared the name of Williams. Because the name Lightfoot could not get a liquor license and of all things an Indian wanted to become, you know, in the liquor business. So upon becoming—changing his name, he got a liquor license, because his name went from Lightfoot to Williams through the courts of the state of California. And the family progressed, whereas they established the first big nightclub in Las Vegas—or rather, Los Angeles, excuse UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 2 me, which became the Paradise Club. And upon the Paradise Club, his son took over upon his death. And there was a lot of celebrities. Oh, there was Bing Crosby, there was the Mills Brothers, well, we won’t go into that because we really want to get into Las Vegas. And upon his separation, my father—of his wife, she remarried and upon this remarriage we came into Las Vegas and became residents of Las Vegas, very early in 1943. Okay. Okay. Okay. When you came to—Las Vegas in 1943, where did you go to school at? Las Vegas High School. Okay. Did you graduate from Las Vegas High School? Well, that was the only high school in Las Vegas, I had to; in the year of 1950. Okay. I understand that you were sort of a celebrity yourself in Las Vegas, as far as becoming a Miss Las Vegas. Can you tell me a little bit about that? Oh yes. I was very fortunately honored as becoming, in the city of North Las Vegas, their very first Helldorado Queen. And I represented Miss North Las Vegas Police Department. I didn’t really win the contest but I did try. Hm. Then, the following year, my family had moved into the proper city of Las Vegas and I was then asked also to become Miss Las Vegas, Police Department—as becoming Miss Las Vegas, Police Department for the Helldorado contest in my approach in going to the contest, I had a very serious car wreck, which my nose was pretty well broken. And I made the first round up, I made the second round up. When it came to the third round up to choose the queen, for some reason they carried me off. Because I had just passed out. I didn’t quite make it. But they tell me I did make at least second runner up. But that’s the police department for you. (Laughs) Okay. After high school would you go on to any other schooling? UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 3 Oh yes. I went to a little tiny—and it was the first college that was actually established in Las Vegas. And it was called the College of Commerce. And it was right down on Fourth Street, on one of those little side streets across from the main post office. And I took geology and all these kinds of things because I wanted to really get into sales and real estate property in Las Vegas. But the temperatures, the heat, was extremely hard for me to go out and hunt for rocks in the middle of the desert, due to the extreme heat. Well, I didn’t complete it. But I went on to further things, which I thought was a little bit more to my knowledge as becoming a dispatch operator for western airlines. Then progressing on as everything takes time, as an airline stewardess, which was really great. And I had basically thirteen years of airline experience, which I cherish to this very day, which was very, very great. Okay. Let’s broaden the aspects of the airline business at that time. What were the airlines that were coming in to the airport at this time? Well, we had Western Airlines, TWA Airlines, and I think (Unintelligible) was coming in at this precise time. But it was a very small airport. In fact, one thing that might be very, very interesting to you, was at the time that I was a dispatch operator working for Western Airlines, I was the first one that ever landed a Pan-American airline flight into Las Vegas. And oh, this was funny. The coast had extreme fog and was really closed in. All the way from San Francisco to San Diego. And I kept getting this old S.O.S message and finally I picked ‘em up on my radio and I said, “Your only alternative is to come in to Las Vegas. Nobody is reading you. They are fogged out.” Well, the plane landed in Las Vegas, which nobody thought could happen. Because the runways were too short and all this kind of stuff. You know how—you know, politics are. But we landed her and here we got a western airport, western personnel, and all this stuff and here comes these people off the airplane with the (unintelligible) around their neck, and all this UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 4 kind of stuff. It was quite a sight to see. But they landed safely and it was a history mark for Las Vegas. Where was the airport located at this time? At McCarran Airport. McCarran. Okay. It’s the old terminal now, which is Hughes Airwest’s main offices and stuff. Well, they have now, another main office in San Francisco. Okay. Can you tell me a little bit about the hotels, the early startings, and the early stages of hotel casino work in Las Vegas? Very, very much. We were very sure to help to a certain extent. And if you knew somebody and you knew the ropes you could get a job. I was seventeen and I worked at the Club Bingo, which is now the Sahara West Hotel, or Sahara Hotel, I should say. And it was really a beautiful, beautiful opportunity. I learned a great deal in the experience of the gambling life. But in the meantime we had a lot of little places that were forgotten. On the Strip was mainly, the El Rancho, the Club Bingo, which is now the hotel Sahara, the Thunderbird Hotel and way out in the boondocks, somebody said we’re gonna build the Hacienda. Well, everybody said, it would never make it or anything else. But then, some little man came in and built the Flamingo Hotel. And that was when it had the big beautiful waterfall out front. By the way, I was asked to represent the Flamingo Hotel during a Helldorado contest, which might be very interesting to you young ladies and men. And I had a little bit of problem, I couldn’t quite fit into the costume to represent their Cinderella for the Helldorado days. But Mr. Bugsy Siegel, personally interviewed me and I had been accepted. But when they went to fit me for the costume, it couldn’t quite zip it up the back. UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 5 Okay. As far as the casinos again, I would like to broaden the subject on that. Between the time of when they were starting their boom and their establishment now, what—what are their most—the changes that come into your mind? Well, many years ago and right now if you went down and looked at it, it would be an old furniture store. But the corner of Main Street and Bonanza Boulevard was a beautiful hotel and it was called the Shamrock Hotel. And we had many great entertainers at that time; especially, Martha Ray—this is really going back kids. You won’t remember him but Ted Williams. I mean, there was just a lot of great stars. And then, up the street from this, beyond the railroad tracks, they decided to build a hotel called the Moulin Rouge. And the Moulin Rouge, to this day, you can drive up and see it. It was fantastic. And there was a gentleman, if any of you young men, are interested in prize fighting, his name was Joe Lewis, champion of the world, at one time. And he, overseer—he was the ambassador of the hotel. They opened the Moulin Rouge and it was the first time in the history of Las Vegas that we had an all-girl chorus line that was solid black. And these girls were beautiful. They could dance, sing, everything. The whole show was for the Black people. And this was the first time that the Black people had really had a chance to be introduced into Las Vegas. And they proved themselves until the point there was a few nasty guys that decided, they were going to ruin it for everybody. Well, the Moulin Rouge folded. The building still stands but that’s part of Las Vegas. Can you tell me a little bit about the entertainment back then? The movie theatres, entertainment in the casino themselves or anything on that subject? Well, we’re going back to the time now to where your generation is hearing and reading stars on the late movies. But these stars were very, very prominent in Las Vegas. We had a racial problem in Las Vegas to where the stars on the Strip were performing like Liberace. Peggy UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 6 Ryan, who made many, many musicals with Donald O’Conner, Jenny Sims, who was with Kay Kyser band, you know, it’s kind of hard remembering all of them. Back again to Ted Williams. Well, I don’t know if I repeat myself, but Liberace—I fell over Liberace at the Frontier Hotel on the second night of his first performance, with a little five year old boy that could play the Boogie-Woogie and play the piano that would put you all to shame. But Las Vegas at this time was really kind of weird. Entertainers all worked together, like the Mills Brothers, they were Black. But these people wanted to congregate. This was their own club, their own organization. And a lot of the hotel Strips—well, what few we had, wouldn’t accept it. But there was a place called Twin Lakes, which is now Potosi Park, and these people that didn’t mind the Black people and the white people, would go to Twin Lakes, which was many, many days of my high school days that I swam and played there, and there was little cottages all around. And they would congregate. They would have their barbeques and their entertainment, and it was the show people. Now these people didn’t want to stay on the trip or the Strip, for the simple reason that they were entertainers. They appreciated each other, and their professions, and they loved each other. So, to be with their own people, let’s say, they stayed out at old Twin Lakes, which is now Potosi Park, which I’m sure many of you guys are, been out there and really had a lot of fun. But those were the good old days, to where everybody knew everybody, and everybody accept ‘em as they were. And many of the hotels, like the Mills Brothers, I’m sure many of you are very fond of the old songs of the Mills Brothers, and these people stuck together. And maybe this is why today in Las Vegas, we are now accepting the Blacks with the whites. And we appreciate them. Can you tell me what kind of jobs that you experienced—your stay in Las Vegas? UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 7 Oh my goodness, I’m like any teenage child or a kid, however you want to call it—I tried many. One of my very first jobs in Las Vegas was the Old El Portal Theatre, which was a connection of eventually the Huntridge Theatre, which was Loretta Young, several movie stars had bought this deal and built homes a theatre and everything in Las Vegas, to make it a very dramatic thing, you know. And the homes were really quite expensive in those days. But anyway, there was a lady that had been—at the time I was working at the El Portal Theatre, and her name was Ms. Hatfield. She was an old, old, pioneer of Las Vegas. And evidently, I’d done a fairly good job at the old El Portal. And she asked me to come over to the Huntridge Theatre, where she trained me. Now let’s put a little humor in here. She sends me up to what we used to call like, Derelict Road. And they had a couple kids that were up there working and one would sell the ticket and the other one would collect the ticket at the door, and instead of ripping it in half, he’d take it back up to the ticket office and tell her to resell it again. Well, they sent me over there as a spy. Oh boy, here we get the, you know, the story the tape itself will self-destruct in thirty seconds, whatever you call it. (Laughs) What was it? There was an old program on TV, something about that. So anyway, I went up there, and this was where we had many visitors that would visit Las Vegas. They really couldn’t afford a room. They had no place to stay but they came into the old Palace Theatre, which was on First Street. And then, it was eventually changed to the Western Theatre. But we’d have people that would just spend the whole night in there. But the theatre went broke because of a few bad hired help. And this is part of Las Vegas. These are the things that we remember. The old, old trains coming in, the theaters. Children would eventually—you know, may go to three shows in the day while mother and daddy were playing the slot machines. Vegas has lost a lot, an UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 8 awful lot. We don’t truthfully have the hospitality, the old time. We used to have many, many people. You’d never see ‘em in everyday streetwear. They wore the cowboy boots. They wore the hats and it was constantly like the pioneer sign, “Howdy, partner, how’s your day?” Vegas has really lost a lot—I’d say just in the last ten years. Now that is an awful statement to say. But truthfully, the hospitality and the warmth of Las Vegas has changed. Kris, what else do you have there that I could really get deep into before—I know you only have a few minutes. But some real important things that maybe your generation, and you guys can really impress. I know we don’t have this much time to go into details but I would like all the students in this class, if they have any foresight, to bring back the love that Las Vegas really has. To bring back the warmth of the people. Okay, going—continuing on this subject, why would, do you think that Las Vegas has warmth? Can you elaborate on that a little bit more? Well, as a young girl growing up, I can remember everybody making the comment, you know, regarding politicians and things like this that the mafia was buying ‘em off. And then, of course the government steps in, “Oh, you got the mafia there.” And you got this kind of stuff. Truthfully, Kris, we did have what you would call the family, or the mafia in Las Vegas. But at this time, we never had the rape cases, we never had the robberies, we did not have people going hungry. They couldn’t pay their bills. Someway, somehow, everybody was basically taken care of in Las Vegas. Maybe it was a political payoff or a few bucks under the table. But as a child, myself, growing up in the state of Nevada, we were always protected. I’d walk on the street at you know, two o’clock, three o’clock in the morning, and Metro Police Department, which then we called Las Vegas Police Department, would drive up and say, “Young lady or young man, where you going?” And—“Home.”—“Well, come on, I’ll give you a lift.” The friendliness. UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 9 Course then, we had enough men to help cover the situation, too. We used to have dances. We would block. We’d win a game—course I went to Las Vegas High School. We’d win a game and at Carson and Las Vegas Boulevard, we would block the streets off, and have the most beautiful dance. And the police department, they would let us dance, maybe thirty minutes or better. And all of our radios would be synchronized in our cars, and we had fun. We used to roam up and down Fremont Street. What do you call it now, you know, you got terminology. What do you kids call it now? Strutting up and down Fremont Street, something in this category. We used to do it all the time. And the tourists, we’d holler out the window, “Hi, you having a good time, you winning lots of money?” And we just had a beautiful time. Las Vegas is not Las Vegas anymore. I mean, we’ve got people now that visit us and they’re scared to walk down the street. Heck, I used to walk down the street at three A.M in the morning and never think anything of it. My mother never worried about me, my father never worried about me. But then we had a good control system, too. And that has a big part to do with it. Another maybe angle on this would be a lot of immigrants coming in to Las Vegas. A lot of new people, new families, that aren’t familiar with Las Vegas style? Yes. I agree with you, Kris, because publicity—go to Las Vegas, you’ll make forty, fifty dollars a day. The union will do this and the union will do that. Yes, Kris that’s a very, very good subject to bring up. I can remember, and this is truth because I wanted a job in the casino. And I can remember when—as a change girl, as a cocktail waitress, you worked for nothing. You lived off of your tips. And the hotels and casinos—well, I shouldn’t say, hotels because we didn’t have that many. We had a lot of casinos and things. And the casinos would pay you basically, a dollar a month. Because that’s all they could afford. And waitresses lived off of tips. They—and they UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 10 were driving Cadillacs and limousines, everything in this category. It was fantastic. And there was never a waitress that never in anyway ever had to go to prostitution or anything else to support her family. And the same thing was with the dealer. A dealer. They lived in the life of luxury. And—of course dealers really made money. In fact, one of the bad things in Las Vegas was the fact that you were paid daily, after every shift. Some of the dealers would go blow their money on a crap table or twenty-one, whatever you want to call it. But then a lot of them would take their paycheck home. Because they got paid every night. Because a lot of them were six weeks divorcees and they took off. You mentioned, just a few minutes ago, a little bit about prostitution. Can you gimme any—how it relates back then to how they are now? Yes. I sure can. Now a lot of this information I have received from my husband and his family. ‘Cause my husband came here in 1936. But they used to be, what they call like, Block 2. And Block 2 you know, he sold newspapers on the corner. It was really beautiful. And as a woman, I thoroughly, one hundred percent respect prostitution if it’s done in the right manner. It saves many young girls, as I have two young daughters of my own. But it also, satisfies a lot of anxiety of different young men. These girls were governed. They were taken care of. In fact, for your information, we had one very prominent doctor in Las Vegas. His name was Doctor Hardy, which was connected with Laurel Hardy, of the old time silent movies. And in fact, they were dead ringers. You couldn’t tell ‘em apart. And they were over (unintelligible) once a week, the doctor checked them out. And we never had any problems with prostitution. We never had any rape cases in Las Vegas. We had nothing like this. The gentlemen were taken care of, and the ladies were, too. They were checked out and I’m one hundred percent for it to be legalized. Not the young girls that stay on the street corners, no—or the young girls at the bar, and take them UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 11 into the room, and rob them. No. I’m against that. But I do believe that it should be legalized and under control. Okay. As far as the prices, the inflation that’s happening since you came to Las Vegas in 1943. What were the prices and the situation of gas or whatever that’s compared to the prices of today? Well, young lady, I can remember buying gas for thirty cents a gallon. Then if we had a price war, you know, sometimes I get it for twenty or twenty-five a gallon. But I can be a little off there, because you know, really, I didn’t pay the bills, mom and dad did. And same as you kids, I had a charge account. Go down buy some gas. You know, fill the car up. But there has been a great difference in prices, but so has salary changed. Now those days, you know, we thought, you know, thirty cents for a gallon of gas was something. But we weren’t making the kind of money today, salary wise. Salaries, unions, and with Mr. Carter, God bless his soul, setting prices, you know, wage scales and all this bit, it really truthfully is not any different from years ago. You hear mother and dad say, you know, “Oh, I bought a loaf of bread for five cents.” They were only making maybe ten cents. It’s still basically pretty much equaled out. Except and I got to say this. And I hope I’m not being wrong, I do think the cost of living—well, in the last seven years, it has doubled. And I do not believe the salary has doubled nor gas, utilities, and these things that cause you to run a house. But when you kids get up there to have to start paying the doctor bills and dentist bills, you’ll find out. So raise hell now, keep the economy going. ‘Kay, and now, can you tell me a little bit about the Dam that was being built around 1935, 1936? You know, that’s a beautiful question. And in a way, I wish I could go back at that time. I was a young girl and the dam was just about being completed when I came into Las Vegas. But to add UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 12 a little humor to this. There’s a place going in to Boulder City that’s called the Railroad Pass. And kids, this was really some place. The dam at that time, by the way, was called, Boulder Dam. We didn’t—I don’t think we even knew about President Hoover at that time. But Railroad Pass was on the left hand side going into Boulder City, and it’s still there. In fact, it’s really grown quiet a lot. Behind Railroad Pass was quite a few, shall we call ‘em apartments or should we call ‘em shanties? Take your choice. And across from Railroad Pass was what we called Cardboard City. And Cardboard City was anything and anyway who or how that you could find to erect, to make a roof over your head. Cardboard, tin, cans, anything. The men working from the dam, the majority of them, they lived here. They built their little—you might call ‘em like Indian (unintelligible) huts. They would go across the street to the Railroad Pass. They would gamble. They would wine and dance and have a hell of a lot of fun. But then, as the night dread on, they got a little amorous. And there was a back door going out of Railroad Pass. And as I understand, now fellows, I was never there. (Tape one ends) But as I understand, young fellows, there was a backdoor. And this backdoor led to the ladies of the night. And if you ever drive out there and you go around behind the building, of Railroad Pass, you will still see a few buildings standing there, which is part of the ladies that satisfied the men building the dams. As their families were throughout the United States. But they did do their share, in keeping the men happy, and in helping to build Las Vegas, Boulder and Henderson. At the time, there was just Las Vegas, am I right? Mm-hmm. When did Boulder City, Henderson start developing? UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 13 Boulder City did not start—it was during the Roosevelt—President Roosevelt that he declared, “We’re going to build a dam.” And I believe it was President Roosevelt that declared, you know, and started building Boulder Dam. Las Vegas was already established but Boulder Dam, basically made Las Vegas. And slowly, in between Boulder and Las Vegas, rose a little city called Henderson. Henderson brought in titanium metals, American Pot Ash, which is basically controlled by the Navy, if nobody knows this. And for the history of this, they were the first to make jet and rocket fuel, which is governed by the Navy. And it changed from, oh, Wako to another name and then American Pot Ash and really some day when we got the time, we’ll go into the little history of Henderson. Everybody kind of down dogs Henderson. But Henderson also has an awful lot to do with the bread-and-butter that was brought into Las Vegas. You mentioned, when you were talking before, you mentioned a story called, California Okie. Oh, this was funny. My parents, course, my—I had lost my real father, but my step-father, which I’ve had like thirty some odd years—we moved to Las Vegas and my mother takes me down to Las Vegas High School to enroll me. And we still had California license plates on our car. And I almost backed out. I didn’t want to go to school. I mean, I was just scream—I mean, there was tears in my eyes. And all these kids, ‘cause we drive up in front of Las Vegas High School, hollered, “California Okies.” Well, that was really a reception coming in to a brand new high school. I’ll never forget it as long as I live. Well, those days, we didn’t really have too many foreign license plates. I mean, I didn’t really think California was a foreign country but I’ll tell you, my reception into Las Vegas was. How long did it take for those people that called you a California Okie, to warm up to you? And accept your family as Las Vegas people? UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 14 I’d say, a good six months. I went to school, I went to class, and nobody would even basically speak to me. This is how close Las Vegas was. They really didn’t want strangers coming into the town. We wanted business. We wanted all these kind of things. Or I should say, they did. But they didn’t realize my mother was buying a cocktail lounge in Las Vegas, connect it with the old Las Vegas bowling alley, which used to be on Second Street, and of course, is completely gone now. But no, Las Vegas was a very personal close family town. Then finally, as you know, as I start meeting students and dating and this bit and that bit, things started to loosen up. But it did take a while before I was accepted. Can you tell me about any of the—the more restaurants? The older restaurants that are in some ways are still around today? You know, we do have one club that I think all of you have watched it being demolished. Was the old El Rancho Vegas. That was I guess the first big nightclub in Las Vegas. And it was right there across from the Sahara Hotel on Sahara Boulevard and Las Vegas Boulevard. In fact, that was one of the first places that I ever been taken to, in one of my first big dates. And it was sad. And why it was completely destroyed, I’ll never know. Well, a lot of politics. And a lot of this and that. But that was one of the first nightclubs. And I’ll give you one name young fellows, and you go home and ask mother and dad. Lili St. Cyr, who was she? Now my name’s Sally, but I ain’t the gal that was there. Sally Rand, these were two of the most greatest striptease artists that was ever, ever in show business. ‘Course we had a lot of other great entertainers there, believe me. But that was the first time, I’d ever seen anything like that. And that was with Lili St. Cyr in a bathtub. But from that club, we’ll go on over to the Last Frontier and that is one club that should never ever had been changed to the New Frontier. Mrs. Krupp, from Germany that had the ammunition dump and stuff, she bought this club and she really changed it. She tore out the UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 15 old Last Frontier Village that was there, which, oh, what a glorious place this was. And around town, you’ll see mannequins sitting out of the old cowboy smoking a ‘gar. You’ll see the old Indians and the old totem poles, and all these things. You would go back in around behind the clubs and the old rickety buildings that were really hauled in from ghost towns and stuff, and they had an old (unintelligible), and one that was an old outhouse. And if you peaked in the window, there was a Chinaman, with his breaches down sitting in the old outhouse. But these were things that were entertainment for the young youth ‘cause they couldn’t go in and gamble. These were things of history of Las Vegas that they really—they demolished ‘em. They lost, old Dobby Dock, he was one of the main founders of the old Last Frontier. In fact, in the paper you probably read about him dying not too long ago. And Dobby was just a little old short guy, he reminds you of (Unintelligible) on Fantasy Island. This man was fantastic. But the history that he brought into Las Vegas at the old Last Frontier and I’m really sorry, truthfully that none of you have ever been able to see this, unless you’re my age or maybe ten years younger. This was Las Vegas. Then there was the old Flamingo Hotel. There was the old Flamingo Hotel, which I’m gonna bring back in for a few minutes, Mr. Bugsy Siegel, and I know you can all go to the library and check the papers on it. He was murdered in Beverly Hills, California. It was a very sad thing. But these are pioneers that brought in an awful lot to Las Vegas and built Las Vegas. And if you really want to go back young fellows, I’m not saying, you know, pick up their traits or anything, but you are all at the point now to bring Las Vegas back to where it should be. And make Las Vegas the Western Town and get rid of some of this gaudiness and fight for the decency that Las Vegas used to really have. And truthfully, maybe I shouldn’t say this and somebody may come up and bomb me, but truthfully when we had some of the family, the godfather, whatever you wanna call ‘em, in Las Vegas, it was a safe town for our children, our UNLV University Libraries Sally Jackson 16 wife to walk through. And maybe if Mr. Bugsy Siegel and maybe sort of like the F-S name, which is being beeped out on boys burlesque, if I’m not saying anything. But God bless these souls. They had Las Vegas under control and none of you guys had to worry. You didn’t have the pot, well, I’m not saying it wasn’t in Las Vegas. But it sure was under control when it was here. And nobody ever got hurt. We didn’t have five and six year olds smoking, going down the streets. So, you young fellows get yourself in gear and help us make the state. You’re asking for old-timers views of Las Vegas, practice a few of the things that we’re trying to tell you in these short sixty minutes. But bring Las Vegas back to the way it was. It’s up to you guys. And honest, it was beautiful. Do you think that could